Ooooookay.....you have two data points there, and zero references. Who are you, Al Gore's evil twin?
Not a scientist, Bob, most scientists.
Honestly, didn't read your post. But why exactly do you want to refute global warming, anyways? I don't know or care either way about it; it doesn't change how I think or act. Why does everyone care so much about refuting it? Do you still deny the need for changes in the manner in which we pollute? Or do you think the way we're going is okay? I would have to think the only major reason for refuting it, other than to say one's right, is to lengthen the timetable for change.
Perhaps you should read then. If you did, you would see that most all of us who speak against manmade global warming also believe that we should all be better stewards of the earth. We care about refuting it when the government comes up with things like cap and tax. Something that will have a horrid effect on the economy, especially the middle class, of which I assume you are a member. That's why YOU should care. And I believe you were a little disingenuous in your earlier post that said you didn't care one way or the other. You obviously do!
Bob, this research has been published in peer-reviewed journals with a very high impact factor (Nature, Science among others). I agree, there's a lot of shady research out there, and it's possible that some may make it's way into these publications ( see: Lancet and autism study), however, it most certainly is not the norm. And to accentuate this, that Lancet article was just one, whereas there are thousands upon thousands of peer-reviewed papers that support man's influence on global warming.
No, I simply meant I don't care one way or another if global warming exists. It's existence doesn't change how I feel about pollution or the environment or what needs to be done. I feel our polluting ways should have ended yesterday and everyday that we are not moving towards some goal of cleaning things up, is another day we are harming ourselves. I use an analogy of one's dirty bedroom. You don't clean it or organize or have it in any working order. The state of that room essentially mirrors one's mind. I feel the way we pollute is no different. There's a psychological basis on a global level for the way in which we pollute. "If you don't know what you want," the doorman said, "you end up with a lot you don't." ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club.
I feel confident that the vast majority of scientific research is what we all hope it is supposed to be. But events like the east Anglia emails have shone some light that not all is on the up and up. And when you have idiots on your side like gore, who needs enemies! Id like to see an open debate of TRUE experts that have no financial gain, and see how it all plays out.
Yea...The Mid-West is a bitch anytime of the year. Always has been. But I'll take the snow and humidity over Hurricane's and Earthquates any day.
