Just bought this..

[USCG Cigar Newb]

Wow that is a great buy and a wonderful woman. Cant wait to see the pictures once you stock it.

 

[jtpatton]

That should hold a cigar or too! Congrats on your purchase!

 

[jtpatton]

or two* .. seriously, I need to read before I post.

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

Well order cancelled, first of all they could not promise I would have it delivered before Christmas even and the fact that there can be issues with the storage just does not work for me. I have so much invested in my cigars and it would break my heart to see anything go to waste or get ruined because I was cheap.

I had lunch with my fiance and told her about this and she said what do we need to make it work, I told here what we need and she said OK.......man I love her, guess she saw how sad I was. But guess who has to cook every night for the rest of the year

So I am thinking to buy one of these....what do you guys think?

http://www.humidordiscount.com/Humidor-Cabinets/adorini_Roma_black_incl._electronic_humidifier.html

Capacity: 3100 cigars

Adorini brand humidor

High-quality black multiple lacquer finish

NEW including LED light installation

6 shelve levels

Interior walls and all trays from Spanish cedar veneer

Extra strong walls for improved isolation, resulting in lower elecricity and water consumption

Dimensions (exterior):L:60.5cm B:45cm H:175cm

Extra-strong door construction, to ensure proper closing of door after many years of use.

Designed for permanent commercial use

Humidification based on "cold condensation" for optimum cigar conditioning

No special humidification liquid required. Works simply with distilled water.

Shipped with 5 removable trays for storage and presentation of individual cigars. Display angle of all trays can be flexibly modified. You can freely choose for each shelve level whether you prefer to store individual cigars in tray or cigar boxes.

Completely equipped with electronic humidification system containing water tank, control unit with integrated accurate electronic humidity sensor.

Chrome plated lock and chrome plated door handle

Drawer for cigar accessories in middle of cabinet on a stainless steel rail with ventilation space at back wall.

Ventilation space at the back wall of the humidor and additional ventilation space at the front side of humidor for improved air circulation. Excellent air circulation, ensuring constant humidity levels throughout the humidor.

New modular design of humidor. Flexibility for expansion. Instead of having to pay for expensive custom-made large humidors, it is now possible to build large humidors by attaching several Roma humidors as modules next to each other.

Advanced multi-functional control unit displaying:
- Current relative humidity (in percentage)
- Preset relative humidity (in percentage)
- Average relative humidity of last 3 days
- Current temperature (in Celsius or Fahrenheit)
- Electronic indication of water level in water tank. No need to open the tank to check water level.

Innovative divider system for flexible individual separation. Protected adorini innovation.

Label clips for dividers. Protected Adorini innovation.

Life-time warranty

NEW! Light installation. Special water protected light strips installed in humidor. Low consumption & Low heat emission.

 

[gibbleguts]

Well you may get better humidification and a prettier cabinet the lack of temp control would have me thinking twice. First one was all about temp control and this one has none?

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[TommyGunz]

yea, looks like a great wine fridge, but thermoelectric is the way to go. Watching the investment you make with your aged CC's, I certainly wouldn't allow the fluctuations in temp and humidity that a compressor will produce.

It can't get that warm in Sweden can it? For that money I would order an Avallo and be done with it. I would assume Vermont is similar to Sweden with temp, and I have my Avallo in the basement and it stays 64 all around. Accumonitor is the cats meow.

Best of luck, if you do keep it, post pics of the drawers you get made up.

RE,

TG

 

[orangedog]

this unit looks like it has some convenient features. no temp control? if you're keeping your house at 20-24 you should be a-ok.

good looking humi! worth cooking for the rest of the year, no doubt.

 

[orangedog]

yea, looks like a great wine fridge, but thermoelectric is the way to go. Watching the investment you make with your aged CC's, I certainly wouldn't allow the fluctuations in temp and humidity that a compressor will produce.

It can't get that warm in Sweden can it? For that money I would order an Avallo and be done with it. I would assume Vermont is similar to Sweden with temp, and I have my Avallo in the basement and it stays 64 all around. Accumonitor is the cats meow.

Best of luck, if you do keep it, post pics of the drawers you get made up.

RE,

TG

Avallo or Aristrocrat are definitely nice options, but what is shipping to Sweden? Maybe worth the one time charge, though...

 

[Tnt Cigarguy]

I would go for the temp control myself. But it looks like Ben is getting a nice Christmas present no matter what.

 

[gibbleguts]

this unit looks like it has some convenient features. no temp control? if you're keeping your house at 20-24 you should be a-ok.

good looking humi! worth cooking for the rest of the year, no doubt.

24 is a little on the high side for me. That is 75F I am a little paranoid but my cigars won't ever see 70.


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[Jonathan Drew]

Get full controls of humidity and temp. Anything short of that, just get giant blue plastic tupperware.

JD

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

Well you may get better humidification and a prettier cabinet the lack of temp control would have me thinking twice. First one was all about temp control and this one has none?

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To be honest presentation is very important and right now I have my cigars in big tuppadors.

The most important for me was not tempcontrol since I have been maniging without it, but I will probably get a small ac unit for the apartment.

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

Avallo or Aristrocrat are definitely nice options, but what is shipping to Sweden? Maybe worth the one time charge, though...

They are not known here in Europe but it seems most of you guys recommened them.

Shipping is one issue and also paying importtax and such will make it expencive.
And what if something brakes, who will pay for shipping parts to me and such, I would be happy if someone sent me a PM with a good vendor that sells them and I can ask some questions.

I was really worried before with storage and such but after visiting couple of my friends that have collection that cost like a house and seing that you dont have to worry I am just not as worried.

Dont forget cigars come from Cuba, not 65/65 over there and what I mean it alot of vintages have not been stored that way so I dont think one need to be scared.

What I never play around with is heat AND humid...then you will get bugs very fast. I dont think I know anyone here in Scandinavia that has had any major issues and almost no one has tempcontrolled.

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

24 is a little on the high side for me. That is 75F I am a little paranoid but my cigars won't ever see 70.


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Have you ever had issues with your ccs when it hits 75? I would probably act diffrent if I had any issues with my storage, it just does not look good.

 

[orangedog]

I think there is a preference/substance discussion that underlies this. I PREFER for my cigars to be stored at 65/65 (or even slightly lower), because I've found that at that level I avoid tight draws and exploding wrappers when lighting up in the AZ heat.

However, cigars are much stronger than what our preferences may give them credit. I had a BHK the other day that had undergone some major "stress" and it still had all of the BHK flavors and burned like a champ. Was it perfect, or 100% up to par... no - but it also was practically abused... not like the temp was just off by 5 degrees.

Like you said Ben, I know some who have nice collections and store at a/c room temp, without problem. I think it really is a preference issue. There is optimum, and then there is perfectly acceptable, and the spread between the two may not be very large.

 

[Clint]

I prefer to keep my cigars closer to 67%, knowing that certain cigars need to be dry boxed before smoking. For me, the worst experience is a cigar that is too dry, so ther ya go.

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

I prefer to keep my cigars closer to 67%, knowing that certain cigars need to be dry boxed before smoking. For me, the worst experience is a cigar that is too dry, so ther ya go.

Same here, I havve 70rh beads and my storage is always between 67-68 rh.
I am just like you, REALLy dont like it when cigars have been stored in low 60s

 

[BEN(SWEDEN)]

I think there is a preference/substance discussion that underlies this. I PREFER for my cigars to be stored at 65/65 (or even slightly lower), because I've found that at that level I avoid tight draws and exploding wrappers when lighting up in the AZ heat.

However, cigars are much stronger than what our preferences may give them credit. I had a BHK the other day that had undergone some major "stress" and it still had all of the BHK flavors and burned like a champ. Was it perfect, or 100% up to par... no - but it also was practically abused... not like the temp was just off by 5 degrees.

Like you said Ben, I know some who have nice collections and store at a/c room temp, without problem. I think it really is a preference issue. There is optimum, and then there is perfectly acceptable, and the spread between the two may not be very large.

Very well said!!

 

[Clint]

Same here, I havve 70rh beads and my storage is always between 67-68 rh.
I am just like you, REALLy dont like it when cigars have been stored in low 60s

And when you receive cigars that HAVE been stored in the low 60's, and you put them in your 67% humi.....Blammo!

We need to invent something that can detect the cigar's humidity before placing them in the humi.

 

[gibbleguts]

Get full controls of humidity and temp. Anything short of that, just get giant blue plastic tupperware.

JD

I totally agree. I think that putting money into full controls is a great way for protecting your investment. By time you are really filling a large humidor you could easily be talking $50 000 if you collect rare or aged cigars.

Dont forget cigars come from Cuba, not 65/65 over there and what I mean it alot of vintages have not been stored that way so I dont think one need to be scared.

Cuba may not be 65/65 but the storage whse and any decent store there is both humidity and temp controlled. They also fumigate often to control the beetles

Have you ever had issues with your ccs when it hits 75? I would probably act diffrent if I had any issues with my storage, it just does not look good.

Me personally no as my house is temp controlled and my basement is a constant 66. I have seen beetle infestations in Cuban cigars that only hit 65% and 22C. Mostly that is not in newer stock but some from as new as 04. Some brands such as Sancho Panza are thought to be more prone to beetles as everytime I buy an older box in Havana the Canadian Distributor always reminds me to double check for beetles. I agree that cigars are more durable then people sometimes give them credit for and agree that 65/65 is not the end all be all but truly do believe that you can tell the difference in cigars that have been aged for more then 10 years in a stable enviroment then one that fluctuates. Some guys like low 60's some high but I think that stability helps cigars develop better in the long run. From the pictures you tend to post I would guess your collection must be closing in on close to $100k so to spend 10% on storage to insure and protect them does not seem unreasonable.