I calibrated my xikar hygrometer last night and when i woke up this morning it was 75/69 then i put it in the tupperdor for a little bit and it was 58/65 so I put those xikar gel humidifier 70% jars. I don't know if im doing it right. But as of right now it says 70/65. And being such a newbie I do not know if that is ok to put my cigars in. I also purchased cat litter but the container does not say the weight and height so have no idea how much to put in which is why i purchased the xkiar gel yesterday. My cigars just arrived today to. So what should I do?
Humidity in tupperdor
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first, most calibration tests require 48 hours
also, while those gel humidifiers work will in desktops, and large igloos, they seem to overhumidify smaller tupperware containers.
I am not a big fan of kitty litter, so I always advise using a Boveda.
also, while those gel humidifiers work will in desktops, and large igloos, they seem to overhumidify smaller tupperware containers.
I am not a big fan of kitty litter, so I always advise using a Boveda.
I probably should have gotten a smaller gel humidifier. So do i do another salt test?
i have to ask, how long did you perform the salt test?
now, forget the salt. buy a Boveda. the Boveda is best for your tupperware, it will last a couple of years, and it does a better job than the salt test of calibrating a hygrometer. and better yet, if you use a Boveda in your tupperdor, you dont need a hygrometer.
length of test depends on amount of salt, amount of water, and the size of the test chamber. if all 3 parameters are not correct in relation to each other, the salt test does not work.
thats why the Humidipak Calibration kit was invented. With the kit, you have a precise amount of salt and water inside of the Humidipak, you have a calibration chamber(bag) sized according the the size of the Humidipak, and then the directions give you the amount of time needed (based on bag size, and amount of salt and water) for a proper test.
thats why the Humidipak Calibration kit was invented. With the kit, you have a precise amount of salt and water inside of the Humidipak, you have a calibration chamber(bag) sized according the the size of the Humidipak, and then the directions give you the amount of time needed (based on bag size, and amount of salt and water) for a proper test.
usmcpurcell
Dutch
Nuff said ^^^
Cigary43
Just Another Ashhole
Tupperware is a great way to store cigars and the best media to use that I know of is KL and I've used for over a year with great results. I've used beads as well but they tend to get expensive as your collection grows. Depending on how large your container is you can use just about anything to keep KL in...( get the unscented Exquisicat Pearls with the blue pearls in it ) use a dish or anything that will hold the KL...a shallow media type is usually the best kind as you want as much KL exposed in the tupperware. DO NOT add any DW for the first day to see what your RH is going to be...if it is too low for what you want add 2 spritzes of DW and check again in a couple of hours. Once you get to the RH you want then you're set for quite awhile or until it swings lower than what you want it to be. I've gone months without having to add DW at all and I have 20 humidors. If museum curators use this for works of art that tend to run in the hundreds of thousands of dollars then I'm pretty sure it will be just fine for my $10 cigars. Anyone who doesn't like KL just because they don't like what the product was marketed for is doing themselves a disservice.
Cigary43
Just Another Ashhole
Several in New York where a friend of mine actually knows the people who use it. It was he who got me into using KL in the first place. The idea is to keep the artwork in a stable RH environment so KL is used as the sole media for it.
As for our cigars using KL is idiot proof....use as much KL as you would beads and the only time you'd use DW is when the RH goes down. If you want your environment at 65% then watch your humidor for at least half a day until you see what the RH is inside...if it dips below 65% say like 62 percent then spritz the KL a couple of times with DW...wait a few hours and it will spike at least 2 % ( depending on how large the humidor is..how large the receptacle you're using...example...I have one humidor that holds 250 cigars so I use a container that holds about 8 ounces of KL...each time I spray the surface of the KL it rises about 2 to 3% and it holds for months. ) and I have 20 humidors of varying sizes that will testify to how well the RH stays at what I want. The only trial and error is the first couple of times one checks the RH inside the humidor.
KL will probably always turn off people just because of what it is and what it's called and the primary use of it...that's fine if people don't want to use it as everybody likes to choose what media they use for cigars, by all means use what you want. KL is just another choice for those who already know how it works and the cost is so much less....means more cigars for me.
are they going into petco to buy kitty litter, or are they using the special type of silica gel that museums use (which is NOT litty litter). I know the person who is regarded as the leading expert in the field of using silica gel for art preservation. He assures me that it is not kitty litter that the museums are using
cartisdm
Young & Eager
Oh no! Not this debate again... :eyepoke:
It's probably not the same stuff. I can't imagine museums have little bowls of crystals with blue speckles in them sitting next to the paintings. Either way, KL is great stuff and while I've seen people debate back and forth about which works better, I've never seen anyone say KL messed up or didn't hydrate their cigars well enough to keep them satisfied.
its a great debate, why not bring it up once in a while. I am not looking to argue with people, but there is some science behind different types of silica gel products.
I know that kitty litter works. But the issue is that it is not the same as the more expensive beads. Kitty litter is not the easiest to use, because there has to be some knowledge, and an accurate hygrometer to condition your beads. You have to go through a conditioning process. The museums have a formula that they use to determine the exact amount of water to add. There is room for error if not careful
I know that kitty litter works. But the issue is that it is not the same as the more expensive beads. Kitty litter is not the easiest to use, because there has to be some knowledge, and an accurate hygrometer to condition your beads. You have to go through a conditioning process. The museums have a formula that they use to determine the exact amount of water to add. There is room for error if not careful
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One thing I have noticed with the tupperdor, I used it for a road trip with my lady and my normal travel humi was too small, be very careful of swings in temp. That is the biggest enemy to constant humidity other than the moisture itself. Warm air holds more humidity than does cold, so if you pack everything in the tupperdor from a warmer environ than you're traveling in/to then you can expect condensation.
I noticed it with mine when we were in the truck. I like it chilly cold in there year round and the moisture in the tupper started to condense. We lifted the lid and let it breathe, and everything was all good, but keep an eye on it.
Also of note, I wasn't using a Boveda system, I was using a generic crystal based humidifier. I would like to repeat the trip with Boveda to see how much different it is.
Watch out for temp swings since tupperware is thin and non-insulated, and watch out for sun exposure if using it for travel.
For me it's a psychological aversion that keeps me from using KL. I just don't think they clean the beads/crystals well enough to get rid of particulate that may land on my sticks, after all, a cat is going to use it as a bathroom. How dust free does it need to be for that? Is it harmful? Probably not, but I don't want to entertain the notion of smoking kitty litter residue while enjoying my sticks.
Either way, good luck.
I noticed it with mine when we were in the truck. I like it chilly cold in there year round and the moisture in the tupper started to condense. We lifted the lid and let it breathe, and everything was all good, but keep an eye on it.
Also of note, I wasn't using a Boveda system, I was using a generic crystal based humidifier. I would like to repeat the trip with Boveda to see how much different it is.
Watch out for temp swings since tupperware is thin and non-insulated, and watch out for sun exposure if using it for travel.
For me it's a psychological aversion that keeps me from using KL. I just don't think they clean the beads/crystals well enough to get rid of particulate that may land on my sticks, after all, a cat is going to use it as a bathroom. How dust free does it need to be for that? Is it harmful? Probably not, but I don't want to entertain the notion of smoking kitty litter residue while enjoying my sticks.
Either way, good luck.
cartisdm
Young & Eager
Good point. Prior to making the jump to KL, I did a LOT of research. I probably over-thought a lot of the steps but I didn't want to mess anything up. Just adding in KL may not work for some people. Luckily I was also in the process of seasoning my new humidor so I had the liberty of allowing my RH to go all over the place (50-80%). Each day I'd either add or take away KL/water to adjust as needed. Once it settled in at 65% I started adding my cigars. Ever since then all I've had to do is add a tablespoon of water every few months and my hydration needs are set