Pete Johnson's new line: L'Atelier
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Sorry Pete I misunderstood your previous comment. Either way I support what you do and enjoy your brands...Especially the Cojonu 03!
njstone
BoM January 2010
The Cabaiguan Guapos came out YEARS before the Behike 54. Same size, pigtail cap, etc. Then the Behike came out in that size. Did Cohiba "rip-off" Tatuaje? I really doubt it.
Now Pete is doing a new line with that size, as well as the other 2 Behike sizes because those are popular. I don't get the problem with this, nor do I get a "rip off" vibe from this at all. He's not calling them "Behike" and the bands look nothing like the Behike bands.
Are all Lanceros a rip-off of the Cohiba Lancero? Are all Churchills a rip-off of the R&J Churchill? Copying, sure, but a rip-off? Come on, guys, let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Tatuaje has been paying homage to Cuban heritage brands since it's inception. Just look at the first line, the Brown label, each vitola named after classic Cuban cigars:
Noella (5 1/8 x 42)
Regio (5 1/2 x 50)
Unicos (6 1/8 x 52)
Havana Cazadore (6 3/8 x 43)
Especiale (7 1/2 x 38)
Taino (7 5/8 x 49)
Reserva SW (i.e. Sir Winston)
How can this be a bad thing? Cigars were born in Cuba, and will always have ties to Cuba. Most NC manufacturers pay homage to Cuba in some way, at least via Spanish names, etc. This is completely normal and I honestly am astounded by the annoyance some people seem to be displaying.
As to the Andre thing ... Pete is saying "I'm copying the Behike sizes here." It's intended, obvious, and stated. What Andre did here and there was never stated as "copying Tatuaje," and that's what rubbed some people the wrong way
Now Pete is doing a new line with that size, as well as the other 2 Behike sizes because those are popular. I don't get the problem with this, nor do I get a "rip off" vibe from this at all. He's not calling them "Behike" and the bands look nothing like the Behike bands.
Are all Lanceros a rip-off of the Cohiba Lancero? Are all Churchills a rip-off of the R&J Churchill? Copying, sure, but a rip-off? Come on, guys, let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Tatuaje has been paying homage to Cuban heritage brands since it's inception. Just look at the first line, the Brown label, each vitola named after classic Cuban cigars:
Noella (5 1/8 x 42)
Regio (5 1/2 x 50)
Unicos (6 1/8 x 52)
Havana Cazadore (6 3/8 x 43)
Especiale (7 1/2 x 38)
Taino (7 5/8 x 49)
Reserva SW (i.e. Sir Winston)
How can this be a bad thing? Cigars were born in Cuba, and will always have ties to Cuba. Most NC manufacturers pay homage to Cuba in some way, at least via Spanish names, etc. This is completely normal and I honestly am astounded by the annoyance some people seem to be displaying.
As to the Andre thing ... Pete is saying "I'm copying the Behike sizes here." It's intended, obvious, and stated. What Andre did here and there was never stated as "copying Tatuaje," and that's what rubbed some people the wrong way
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I like the whole idea of a Tat workshop and look forward to the smokes. Sizes are nothing new, pigtails are nothing new and if he feels he started it an Behike took it, so be it. I'm not versed enough in the history of cigars to know who started it. All I know is that the workshop sounds awesome and so does this smoke. Lookin forward to August!
I'm more interested in the bundles since I'm a cheap-ass...
That reasoning is like saying Adidas stole Nike's design when they introduced a size 11 shoe
What are you talking about? It's nothing like that.
A proper analogy would be if Nike had 3 sizes of shoes that were unique to Nike and Adidas came along and made those same 3 sizes. And then they make those shoes look exactly like the Nikes!
I was thinking the same. Hope it doesn't taste like it's name! Looking forward to trying all of these, some of my favorite cigars are PJ sticks. That being said a few of my least favorites as well. Personally I don't give a rat's ass about who did what first I'm more concerned about who's doing what now!el suelo?? lol ! might wanna reconsider renaming that one.
Welcome back Pete and congrats on the new lines.
BUT...
If Adidas clearly stated they were "paying homage" to Nike though, THEN it'd be cool. You know, cause they're being up front about it and stuff.
And c'mon Nate...take a closer look at the bands. There is at the very least, an ample amount of "homage" being paid there too.
javajunkie
BoM July '12
if it tastes of tomato and basil, am i ripping off italy? and, more imortantly, if it is delicious, does it matter?
fat kid logic!
fat kid logic!
Wow, there must be a serious Midol shortage aound here. This thread reminds me of dirty politics, both sides throwing out completely stupid and innacurate "comparisons" to try to make their innacurate points. Y'all need to step back, prioritize what's worth getting your panties in a bunch, & get laid. Or, just ignore this post & keep bitching back & forth. Your call.
Yeah but I'll bet if ALtadis or General did the same thing
Pete did with Behike, people would be crying bullshit on every forum.
Craig Mac
BoM 4/10 7/11 12/14
Actually if General or Altadis did it no one would really give a flying frog's fat ass. Not many are passionate about those brands like some are about Tats.
At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter, smoke whatcha like and like whatcha smoke.
Dammit Craig...
Don't take the fun away!!
For the record, I am keeping it light. No ill-will here against anyone. I wasn't intending to perpetuate the copy cat notions, but it was just too damn easy. I merely flipped it & reversed it.
