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Doesn't look like they have any. What's MSRP on them?
No idea, not my neighborhood (I'm from the cheap side of the tracks). When you get their home page, type "TAA" and it'll take you to the different brands. Tat has Belle Encre, Bon Chasseur and Gran Chasseur ranging near $200 a box.
 
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I smoked on yesterday that had been resting at 69% for about a week - a bit higher than I usually keep my sticks, but it was the only boveda I had left for my travel humi. It smoked great.

Keep in mind, whatever RH you like, it can take a while to get sticks there. I've heard some suggest they adjust at about 1% per week after you put them in your own humidor. Of course, it will depend on the ring gauge and the difference in RH, but I use it as a decent rule of thumb. When in doubt, longer is better (That's what she said).
 
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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
 

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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
I actually am not looking for an LP. Im looking for innovation. My new favorite lies somewhere in that area
 
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I didn't actually mean a redo of a "SE" LP, but more so something of that caliber - honestly that is high hurdle, very few core blends are IMO in that stratosphere - Padron Anni, Opi, Tatauje...
 

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I actually am not looking for an LP. Im looking for innovation. My new favorite lies somewhere in that area
Agreed, but the attention span of the average consumer has gotten even shorter since LP hit the market. Nowadays it can be a matter of weeks before a brand looses it's legs while everyone is looking for the "next thing". You'd probably do better repackaging and remarketing the same cigar over and over than trying to launch a new line.
 
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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
I agree and there is alot of band wagoning that goes on in our world, but everyones taste is different. I used to be surprised when I would smoke a stick everyone was raving about I would wonder why I did`t get it....now I just pitch it and move on lol. I do like the Tat TAA`s though.
 
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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
Very good insight, sir. Thank you for responding.


For the record..... If it's something you love to do, do it for love, and forget those that oppose :) Just MO.
 

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Agreed, but the attention span of the average consumer has gotten even shorter since LP hit the market. Nowadays it can be a matter of weeks before a brand looses it's legs while everyone is looking for the "next thing". You'd probably do better repackaging and remarketing the same cigar over and over than trying to launch a new line.
I have zero attention for limited run cigars. If you can give me a core line that i can find next month you'll have my attention.
 
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Agreed, but the attention span of the average consumer has gotten even shorter since LP hit the market. Nowadays it can be a matter of weeks before a brand looses it's legs while everyone is looking for the "next thing". You'd probably do better repackaging and remarketing the same cigar over and over than trying to launch a new line.
Sad, but true... and done FAR FAR FAR more times than you could even imagine. I am flat out telling you the bulk of those on the biz view us cigar consumers as simply wallets, they talk the talk, but most of what is coming out of their yaps is utter bullshit. I could make quick bank strolling on that road, but I can't... oh well.
 
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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
I say give it a shot.
 

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It is ok... no one is expected to like everything someone makes, in fact I often argue it is a bad thing.

Imo, if you create a cigar that everyone likes you have ultimately made a cigar no one loves.

I think the more important thing is to try to identify blenders and makers whose products line up with you desired taste, aroma and strength desires, but even then it is unrealistic to think you will like everything they create.

Fwiw, this is personally an issue for me.

-IF- I were to return to the cigar biz and begin actively blending and crafting cigars again the expectation of what it should be is so ridiculously high I am almost certain I will fail to clear the hurdle. Everyone expects "a Saka Era" LP for less cost, but this is very unrealistic expectation for any cigar factory, much less a new one to produce, cigars like these take time to develop. Plus given the fact that everyone has their own individual idea of what is a great cigar it is physical impossible to meet said expectation of everyone. All it takes is for a few folks to beat the drum loudly about their disappointment and viola' it is a marginalized product right out of the gate regardless of how great it might be.

This is something I have been pondering a lot about lately...

BR,

STS
Please don't deprive us of your knowledge and talents in blending...that is as long as you enjoy doing what you've been doing. I know it's a lot of pressure to be great all the time when you're great at something but I'm sure you're putting more potential criticism on yourself than we would put on you. I think you underestimate how much we respect you as a BOTL, not just some guy behind a brand we like.
 
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My bad... I didn't mean to hijack the thread and start this conversation... gotta be more careful - lol.

SMOKE MORE TATS DAMMIT!
You are welcome to Hijack anytime you like, sir.

I think you underestimate how much we respect you as a BOTL, not just some guy behind a brand we like.
And I couldn't have said this better myself.
 
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