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I agree. I believe that in the great majority of cases, the one who carries the gun for protection will have that gun used against him, or the assailants weapon used against him well before his gun gets drawn anyway.
That might be true Wade, however you would at least have a chance, regardless how small. Ain't gonna stop anyone from harming you with your dick in your hand.
 
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I agree. I believe that in the great majority of cases, the one who carries the gun for protection will have that gun used against him, or the assailants weapon used against him well before his gun gets drawn anyway.
While that may happen occasionally I doubt it in the majority of cases unless you have a trigger lock. In fact almost every (I believe it is near 100%) State, County or City that has passed a conceal and carry law violent crime dropped. This could be coincidence but I doubt it.

Criminals use fear as thier best weapon, turning it on them levels the playing field. Will it work everytime, no but it if saves 1 child (using the children as a good liberal would) it's worth it.
 
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For the people who argue that you are more likely to have your own weapon used against you....where are the facts to back that up? I've never seen a single news story about it and you can believe that the liberal media would be all over it. Over the last 20 years literally millions of concealed carry permits have been issued (over 1.3 million in Florida alone) so if that were the case there should be tons of examples. Also, if that were the case the laws would probably be changed to protect the public from themselves. However, not one state that has enacted concealed carry laws has reversed that decision.
 

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That might be true Wade, however you would at least have a chance, regardless how small. Ain't gonna stop anyone from harming you with your dick in your hand.
Uh, yeah, I think I see what you're saying. If everyone had a dick in hand, we'd all be too preoccupied to be violent.

And remember..... if dicks are outlawed, only outlaws will have dicks....

I gotta go, gonna go clean my concealed weapon...... and my gun.
 
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Just to play the Devil's Advocate: How come it's OK for these dudes to carry on their hip when I can't walk around with my Wingmaster slung across my shoulder?
Actually, I may be mistaken but I believe open carry is open carry regardless if it's a handgun or long gun. Concealed carry laws generally pertain to handguns only (Kinda hard to conceal a Wingmaster anyway :) )
If you decide to open carry anything, but especially a long gun, be prepared to draw A LOT of attention, especially from the local constabulary.
 
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For the people who argue that you are more likely to have your own weapon used against you....where are the facts to back that up? I've never seen a single news story about it and you can believe that the liberal media would be all over it. Over the last 20 years literally millions of concealed carry permits have been issued (over 1.3 million in Florida alone) so if that were the case there should be tons of examples. Also, if that were the case the laws would probably be changed to protect the public from themselves. However, not one state that has enacted concealed carry laws has reversed that decision.
I think some of this stems from an oft-cited statistic showing that households with guns are more likely to be involved in a gun-related crime. The problem there is causality. The statistic might be true, but it doesn't mean that owning a gun is dangerous. For example, violent felons are probably more likely to carry guns than the law-abiding population, and thus any statistic that distinguishes only between gun owners and non-gun owners will be skewed. Furthermore, some people arm themselves because they are in some sort of danger, and this further skews the statistics.
 

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I think some of this stems from an oft-cited statistic showing that households with guns are more likely to be involved in a gun-related crime. The problem there is causality. The statistic might be true, but it doesn't mean that owning a gun is dangerous. For example, violent felons are probably more likely to carry guns than the law-abiding population, and thus any statistic that distinguishes only between gun owners and non-gun owners will be skewed. Furthermore, some people arm themselves because they are in some sort of danger, and this further skews the statistics.
I could be wrong, but doesn't the term "Gun Related Crimes" also take into account crimes where a gun owner pulled a gun on an unarmed criminal?
 
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