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Yeah, it sucks that some go to ebay but you don't have to buy them...some people need the money more than others and some people are happy to pay the premium vs. the hassle...I have a friend I use to ride with that bought damn near everything off the bay (sometimes at a premium) because it was convienent (he also has a speech impediment that he is very self conscious about and doesn't like to talk to folks in the store or phone)....now here on the BOTL we have some big hearted good people that are willing to help each other out for no profit which is a beautiful thing...but the auction isn't wrong...it burns me up too but if you don't agree with it just don't buy it. My 2 cents. Hell, we have auctions on here that people pay more than retail on the HTF stuff. :peace:
 
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But $400-$500? Its a $169-200 box...

You're going to have a hard time convincing me to feel sorry about someone that buys these things not to smoke, but to make a profit on. He kept someone that would actually appreciate them from being able to have them.
 

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It gets on your nerves so you tattle-tale? I really have a problem with this. So you've never used poopal for a transaction? Should I report you and the rest of us here for it?

I can understand disagreeing with the guy's actions, but harassing his auctions is overboard. No one here is the eBay police.
I have ot agree with you Patrick. I would not do this, but what right does one have to police what someone else rightfully ownes. If you don't want to pay a price, then don't.

This kind of action is something I would see a "scorned woman" do after finding out the hubby was at the titty bar. Come on, we're adults here, aren't we?'

Give me a break.
 

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But $400-$500? Its a $169-200 box...

You're going to have a hard time convincing me to feel sorry about someone that buys these things not to smoke, but to make a profit on. He kept someone that would actually appreciate them from being able to have them.
I was out of line. Post removed.
 
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But $400-$500? Its a $169-200 box...

You're going to have a hard time convincing me to feel sorry about someone that buys these things not to smoke, but to make a profit on. He kept someone that would actually appreciate them from being able to have them.

I think if you are willing to pay $400-$500 for the box that they better enjoy them! Really no different than the playstations or whatever fad people gotta have. There are a bunch of rich folks out there that don't have the unity that we have here, that they have plenty of money, who love cigars, and are going to pay a premium to get them...and they don't care! There are guys on another cigar forum selling T110's for $75 for 5 cigars...they were $10 ea retail..is that right? Did he sell them, hell yeah. If you were to put a jar of sealed Tat blacks on here for the botl auction do you think you might double your money...probably pretty damn close.
 
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It gets on your nerves so you tattle-tale? I really have a problem with this. So you've never used poopal for a transaction? Should I report you and the rest of us here for it?

I can understand disagreeing with the guy's actions, but harassing his auctions is overboard. No one here is the eBay police.
So far I am not impressed with this board. I don't get why some of you are making such a big deal about these cigars. Have you never bought something, to then turn around and sell it to someone else for a profit. This is what the maker of these cigars are doing, getting rich off us consumers of cigars. If I bought a box of cigars and needed some extra cash, why not throw them on ebay and let people pay what they want for them (I haven't actually done this, I would have probably smoked them :) I understand you may be upset you haven't gotten any cigars, but don't take that anger out on others.
 
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I'm more than happy that I can pretty much get my money back from anything rare that I buy if I had to.

A hobby becomes less fun when you turn it into a business.

Not to say that we should be pete's personal police force (P3F? haha) but he doesn't like that they go up on ebay. His smokes are reasonably price for what they are IMO and he has shown a willingness to take a hit on his profits for the sake of the community (schip taxes).

Also, spite is a strong motivator, haha. That guy is still going to get to sell his box and make his profit, so we'll call it even. He screwed some people over and some of us messed with him.
 

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I have ot agree with you Patrick. I would not do this, but what right does one have to police what someone else rightfully ownes. If you don't want to pay a price, then don't.

This kind of action is something I would see a "scorned woman" do after finding out the hubby was at the titty bar. Come on, we're adults here, aren't we?'

Give me a break.
Guys guys settle down. I was just joking around with the other brothers on the board, Nic in particular who started the fladded running joke. Do I agree with an arseclown buying up boxes to sell for almost double the MSRP? NO. Would I waste my time to police ebay to flad them? NO. I waste all of my time on this site with you fine gentlemen (and a few ladies). Don't get your panties in a bunch it was humor. Oddly enough after I made the joke the listing were removed so maybe there are people out there fladding cigar listing, but I am not the mad fladder I was just making a joke about fladding.
 

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So far I am not impressed with this board. I don't get why some of you are making such a big deal about these cigars. Have you never bought something, to then turn around and sell it to someone else for a profit. This is what the maker of these cigars are doing, getting rich off us consumers of cigars. If I bought a box of cigars and needed some extra cash, why not throw them on ebay and let people pay what they want for them (I haven't actually done this, I would have probably smoked them :) I understand you may be upset you haven't gotten any cigars, but don't take that anger out on others.
this has been an emotional subject, rightfully or not, and will soon die down. it bothers all of us when we see people taking advantage of something we truely enjoy just to make a profit. they can do it if they like, but we don't have to like it.
we are a pretty tolerant bunch here for the most part, and i only say this because i live close to you. we are not here to impress you. if you want to hang out and read all the posts and get to know people that would be great.
 

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Guys guys settle down. I was just joking around with the other brothers on the board, Nic in particular who started the fladded running joke. Do I agree with an arseclown buying up boxes to sell for almost double the MSRP? NO. Would I waste my time to police ebay to flad them? NO. I waste all of my time on this site with you fine gentlemen (and a few ladies). Don't get your panties in a bunch it was humor. Oddly enough after I made the joke the listing were removed so maybe there are people out there fladding cigar listing, but I am not the mad fladder I was just making a joke about fladding.
I'm not meaning to get excited about this. Nor do I want to lose any of the brotherhood we strongly protect here. I don't care what anyone does with what is theirs. This is the USA. I remember them teaching us in grade school about "supply and demand".

I've got no issues with anyone here, personally. Just speaking my mind. It can be taken or left.
 
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this has been an emotional subject, rightfully or not, and will soon die down. it bothers all of us when we see people taking advantage of something we truely enjoy just to make a profit. they can do it if they like, but we don't have to like it.
we are a pretty tolerant bunch here for the most part, and i only say this because i live close to you. we are not here to impress you. if you want to hang out and read all the posts and get to know people that would be great.
I am not looking to get impressed bro, just looking for some cool guys to hang out and talk about cigars with. I:thumbsup:
 
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this has been an emotional subject, rightfully or not, and will soon die down. it bothers all of us when we see people taking advantage of something we truely enjoy just to make a profit. they can do it if they like, but we don't have to like it.
we are a pretty tolerant bunch here for the most part, and i only say this because i live close to you. we are not here to impress you. if you want to hang out and read all the posts and get to know people that would be great.
I think that this is all part of cigar smoking/collecting.

As fans of cigars we buy, sell & trade.

Sometimes for a profit and sometimes for a loss.

How is what this guy on ebay doing any different than the folks on botl who auction their cigars?

There might be a double standard here...
:crosseyed:crosseyed:crosseyed:crosseyed
 

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I think that this is all part of cigar smoking/collecting.

As fans of cigars we buy, sell & trade.

Sometimes for a profit and sometimes for a loss.

How is what this guy on ebay doing any different than the folks on botl who auction their cigars?

There might be a double standard here...
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Because when most of the great bros here sell stuff, if and when it sometimes goes over msrp or purchased price they add more smokes to make up for it.
 

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Because when most of the great bros here sell stuff, if and when it sometimes goes over msrp or purchased price they add more smokes to make up for it.
Well said, and also in some auctions a brother in need is auctioning of some smokes and price can be driven up by those wishing to help a fellow brother out. I would imagine if someone was trying to gouge they would quickly be run off!
 
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