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Very interesting the monsters will actually be released on the 13th of oct. Also Props to Social D!!! great f'en band! Mike ness is the shit.
 

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Found this one too, looks like it's from the same interview. Pete, I am glad the Monte 2010 EL i gave you inspired a new size. that kicks ass.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p4Cjuza9no"]YouTube- Pete Johnson Previews IPCPR for Tatuaje Cigars[/nomedia]
 
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Sounds good to me!! PETE is the man!!
 

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Found this one too, looks like it's from the same interview. Pete, I am glad the Monte 2010 EL i gave you inspired a new size. that kicks ass.

YouTube- Pete Johnson Previews IPCPR for Tatuaje Cigars
Here you go Steve.....

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The latest from Tatuaje's FB page....


"La Verite Update! Dear retailers, Due to the high demand and limited production, all ordered quantities will be reduced."
 
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Yeah once we got all the orders in, we realized we oversold something we can make more of.....So the retailers that had wish lists got reduced considerably.

As I mentioned before, We can't make 2008's using 2009 tobacco. So on we go to the 2009 vintage.
 

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So they oversold?
Tatuaje can't do much when retailers just submit random orders... It is common knowledge there were so many cigars made and I don't see how it's Tatuaje's fault if retailers pre-sold cigars before receiving confirmation of getting the amount they ordered.
 
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I think the idea of cigar futures is brilliant. It has worked with wine for centuries and the coffee industry for decades. I was very excited to hear Tatuaje was doing this and I put my pre-order in as fast as possible.

With any other futures the whole point is to "pre-order," otherwise it would not be a "future" it would be stock. The process is simple. Let's use wine as the example because that is the most common commodity as relates to cigars. The wine company will determine the portion of a harvest it wants to sell as a future and then it will typically enlist a brokerage company to sell the futures or will handle it themselves. They will put an initial sampling of what they think the wine will be for ratings. This is all done before bottling, but once the bottling takes place the number of bottles purchased through futures are held aside. There is tremendous upside and some risk in purchasing futures due to the fact you have no idea how the wine will turn out, but you are typically purchasing it at the lowest price it will ever be. So you can be lucky and get a great wine at a low price or you can get a wine that turns out bad but you didn't pay retail for it.

My issue, as it was in the second post of this thread is the fact the ordering process has been screwed up.

I know this scenario is different because Tatuaje is introducing the concept and is back selling the prior "future." As Pete said he can not make more 08 with 09 vintage. What I don't understand is how the pre-orders were more than expected since the amount of cigars available has been know for well over a year. My thought would be that Tatuaje would offer a specific allotment to retailers and they could take that amount or less, but would guarantee the sale of the product. It just seems odd to me that retailers would be given a "wishlist" for a limited commodity.

It is what it is and nothing can be done about it now. Some of you may not see this as an issue and for this year maybe it isn't, but moving forward I am concerned how this will go. Are you going to be able to pre-order a box only to find out months later that the retailer that held your money will not get the box for you? The whole point to purchasing the future is that you guarantee you get that commodity at that price, thus the risk is did you overpay, not am I going to get it)?
 
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Yeah, This year no one had to pay for it early. I offered up the product at the discounted price without an early pay option. The only reason why they oversold was because while I was away at Famous for an event last weekend, we got many orders in over the weekend that put us over the top. Being a first come, first serve product, normally one would take the orders in order of receipt. Well they were all piled in one stack when I returned to the office. I quickly cut off any new orders coming in.....No one actually reserved with a payment. This is why the orders turned into a wish list.

So this year we are getting everyone with an order some to be fair. Only 130 Retailers got in on the first year.....

Not how I planned it and truthfully not how it will work next year.....
 
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If anyone reserved product with places like NHC, they WILL receive it. Dan was very forward thinking and guaranteed his allocation by paying in advance. The only retailer that actually did that....
 
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If anyone reserved product with places like NHC, they WILL receive it. Dan was very forward thinking and guaranteed his allocation by paying in advance. The only retailer that actually did that....
I'm worried about my prepay...won't mention the retailer but this release seems to be a tight ship...
 
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If anyone reserved product with places like NHC, they WILL receive it. Dan was very forward thinking and guaranteed his allocation by paying in advance. The only retailer that actually did that....
Is that an option for all retailers to pre-pay for orders?
 
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Yeah, This year no one had to pay for it early. I offered up the product at the discounted price without an early pay option. The only reason why they oversold was because while I was away at Famous for an event last weekend, we got many orders in over the weekend that put us over the top. Being a first come, first serve product, normally one would take the orders in order of receipt. Well they were all piled in one stack when I returned to the office. I quickly cut off any new orders coming in.....No one actually reserved with a payment. This is why the orders turned into a wish list.

So this year we are getting everyone with an order some to be fair. Only 130 Retailers got in on the first year.....

Not how I planned it and truthfully not how it will work next year.....
Pete, thanks for the explanation and doing so very quickly. I am looking forward to getting my boxes and to the years to come.
 
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