I doubt it. He was begging them to put it out. Even his neighbors were offering to write checks for any amount to the firemen who stood by and watched it burn.Didn't read the whole thread or check the link; just a thought.
Could this guy have done it on purpose to collect on insurance money?
Apologies if this has been covered.
:rofl: Now, you've written some crazy shit before, but...ahem, HOLY SHIT!....What???Just another bad Government policy. Enjoy your new health care!!!
Uhhhh..yup! :grin:noooow I remember why I opted out of the politics forum. I'm sure Obamacare will somehow factor in to why this guy's house burned down.
Nope, but it is the equivalent to government employees standing around while this poor man's house burned down.I'm sure Obamacare will somehow factor in to why this guy's house burned down.
AgreedTake it for what it's worth. Firemen are heroes, and the men who let that house burn should be ashamed.
We all agree on cigars:ccool:Wow, finally a topic that CC, Greg and I all agree on!
....I know you and I don't usually agree on, well, anything - so I'm not going to attempt to argue with you on this one. All I will do is quote something from an actual firefighter who already posted in this thread...Care to call him a "heartless bastard"?Wow I just heard they let the family pets die.
OK 99.999.% of firefighters are heroes. These guys are heartless bastards.
I view my job as a calling and you can bet I'm most likely not going into a trailer home looking for a Pet. Trailer homes are some of the deadliest fires for us. It's called risk and reward. I don't want my chief knocking on my families door saying he died for a cat. Its a pet although some see it a family member it's not. It can be replaced although with some detriment to the family. A human being is another story. We our taught in our profession daily to think about the risk and reward of our duties on fire scenes. Still to this day too many of us across the country our dying for the wrong reasons.
I'm just asking everyone reading this to not Monday morning quarterback because none of us were there.
What a little instigator....Care to call him a "heartless bastard"?
Greg, you have just illustrated a major problem with our country today. You are making an emotional and moral argument for a man who made a very bad life and business decision. By saying there is no excuse for that you are attempting to place your emotional state and moral beliefs upon others and seem to imply that a legislative change is in order for the situation because you dislike the way it played out. . .all because of $75. As the old saying goes: "It is always about whose ox is being gored." We end up with emotion driven legislation all the time because of the desire for risk free lives. Whatever happened to personal responsibility and accountability for one's actions? To paraphrase the old knight from Indiana Jones Last Crusade: "This guy chose. . .poorly." I am not without empathy for the family's loss, but they were stupid, almost beyond belief.I've read the reports now, and much as I would like to agree with John and Mike here (if you live in a rural area, you better damn well support your local FD...in most cases, it's all they have), I still must disagree.
A human being just cannot watch another's house burn down. There is no excuse for that.
...he's already said in this very thread that as part of a paramilitary style organization, if that's what their chief had told them to do, that's what they would have done. Have you even read the replies here? I too work in a paramilitary organization with a chain of command. If my sgt. says here's what we're doing, it's not my job to question it, it's my job to execute it. If/when it goes wrong, he's the one holding the bag. Your anger at the firefighters here is misguided.What a little instigator.
I can respect that jolietilfire has to assess dangers and make decisions based on those dangers. However, I don't think he and his crew would have watched the place burn to the ground and have done nothing would he?
No matter how passionate they are they probably couldn't deploy for the fire without permission from someone in charge.
Its called chain of command and we follow it every day being a Paramilitary organization. Thank you for pointing it out.