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Dont listen to him Ron get a least a 1080i if you want to watch true HD 720 does not compare to 1080i. Just to clarify this again buddy , HD tv either direct TV or Cable will broadcast in 1080i. Blu ray movies and some on demand movies on direct TV will broadcast in 1080P. So there are 2 different kinds of 1080's the difference is 1080i for cable TV and 1080P for blu ray. Ron are you going to watch blu rays in future or no?
 
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720p will do the job.

I have a 1080p TV in my living room and a 720p in my bedroom. Both get the HD channels. The 1080p TV looks a hair better.
 

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there is nothing that broadcasts in 1080p at the moment, only blu ray is 1080p. so if you aren't to particular and you didn't notice the difference, stick with 1080i which is 720p.
 

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i am not a tv person. i watch the news (FOX of course), a few shows, and an occasional movie. My old, real heavy tube TV just died, so anything will be a big step up for me. I dont own a DVD, so I doubt a Blue Ray is in my future. If its not on a cable channel, I am not watching it. So NO Blu Ray for me.

OK, whats everyones opinion now based on the fact that I should have been born 200 years agao?
 
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would this mean that the channel would not show up? or just not look quite as good?
Its not a channel per say its pay per view movie channel that broadcasts in 1080p. you have to pay for each movie you watch. So all the HBO and HD channels you would get with either 720p or 1080i. In the future maybe a year or 2 all movies shot in 1080p will probably be broadcasted in 1080p on HBO Showtime and so on.
 

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Also depends on size of TV. If under 50, you should be good with 720 especially if you don't watch dvds.
 
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Ron if you have a PC Richards by you there having there employee sale which happens maybe 2 times a year. The sale only lasts a few days and I just heard it advertised on the radio today. They don't list the prices online you need to go there. You would save a ton of money by going there and checking out there employee prices.
Good luck buddy,
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720p FTW. Save your money and spend the rest on cigars. :halfgrinw
Just so I am clear on the better technology. And yes your right 720p is less money for a reason.

That's all you need to know about numbers. 1080i has more pixels, end of story.

Then there's the other, more important side of this argument.
When you're talking about MOVIES, which is what people usually talk about when it comes to home theaters. (you're not buying all that gear just to watch the news on)
Movies are filmed at 24 full frames per second. Which is to say 24p, ie Progressive. If you scan the movie to full HD you get 1920x1080p24, then to convert it to American broadcast standards which is 60hz you do a 3:2 pull-down (look it up) and then splits up the fields into 60 fields per second which exactly converts the 24p to 60i, interlaced. This is lossless and reversible, basically what it does is to show 60 half-frames per second (including some duplicate fields) instead of 24 fullframes. You can return to 24p by a process called Inverse Telecine (ie 2:3 pull-up).

This, ladies and gents, means that for all movie content, a 1080i60-signal will deliver exactly 1080p24 quality if you treat the signal correctly. Make sure your TV knows how to do inverse telecine correctly without dropping any information.

So let's multiply again, with this new found knowledge shall we?
1920 * 1080 = 2.073.600
1280 * 720 = 921.600

Now, I don't want ANYONE saying that 720 is better than 1080 again, it's just half the information, if the source is a movie, even if it isn't a movie, there's still more information in 1080i.

***720p is a mid-ground in HDTV which really doesn't deliver that much more above DVD, it's nice but not great.***

You may wonder what 1080p is good for, well imagine 1080p60, that's 60 fullframes per second of 1080 resolution. That will double the bandwidth, and it's mostly live-situations and video that uses that sort of refresh rate, no movies use it.
 

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can anyone recommend a good 9" black and white old fashioned tube television because this shit just confuses me?
 
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LOL Sorry Ron go with the 720 if you want to save some cash other wise get a 1080p since it will probably last a long time and technology is moving fast and broadcast in 1080p in a few years.
 

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LOL Sorry Ron go with the 720 if you want to save some cash other wise get a 1080p since it will probably last a long time and technology is moving fast and broadcast in 1080p in a few years.
actually, I do appreciate all your info. For me, its a question of do I need the latest technology.
 

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actually, I do appreciate all your info. For me, its a question of do I need the latest technology.
Do you need a 1080p, absolutely not. 720p/1080i will be work fine for a long time, if you plan on watching bluray movies or playing a ps3 all the time then spend the money for the 1080p. If not, go for the 720p/1080i. I have had 3 of these tv's for years and don't see them becoming outdated before they all die on their own. Just like my dads 20 year old tv is still working just fine.
 
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