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Michael Vick wants to own a dog
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slave2theaxe
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing
I honestly didn't read past page 1 because a lot of people's opinion on this matter sicken me to tell the truth. The man did something wrong and went to jail for it, yet people still want him to suffer. Prison is supposed to be a rehabilitation tool right??? If we can't forgive the man after he has served his time, then why sentance him to only 2 years...send him away for life...seems like that would make a lot of people happy. " He shouldn't be able to have a dog". "He shouldn't be able to play football ever again". "He shouldn't be able to have any job." "He should be under house arrest". "He should still be in jail". These are all things I've heard people say. What should he do then...live on welfare so we can complain about him wasting our tax dollars...why don't we just execute him??? Where does it end?
The only reason people care about this is because it involves dogs (which to most people are a cherished family pet)...if Mike Vick was fighting crocodiles, or snakes, or anything else that isn't cute and cuddly, NO ONE WOULD CARE!!!
Donte Stallworth drove drunk and killed a HUMAN BEING and only spent 24 DAYS in jail...where exactly are our priorities in this country???
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The only reason people care about this is because it involves dogs (which to most people are a cherished family pet)...if Mike Vick was fighting crocodiles, or snakes, or anything else that isn't cute and cuddly, NO ONE WOULD CARE!!!
Donte Stallworth drove drunk and killed a HUMAN BEING and only spent 24 DAYS in jail...where exactly are our priorities in this country???
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openendstraight
Grand Corona
Again it was not directed to just you, but if the shoe fits?
openendstraight
Grand Corona
I agree 100%
He should be allowed to earn a living and he did his time in jail. As far as I'm concerned, he served his jail sentence and if the NFL says he can play, let him play. There's no denying he's a great football talent and he deserves to earn a living.
However, one of the conditions of his plea bargain is that he never be allowed to own a pet again. Had he not agreed to that and not be part of his plea deal, then I'd have different feelings about it. The type of animal harmed is irrelevent. The fact of the matter is that he promised in a court of law never to own a pet again and he should be a man of his word. I'm sorry his kids won't know what it's like to have a pet but that's no excuse for him to go back on his word. He should have thought of that before he agreed to it.
Just throwing this out there because I want to know where the line is for the "he served his time!" thing ends. We don't let people get everything back after they get out of jail if they've committed some crimes. Only after a long time are they allowed to get some of those crimes expunged and some felonies don't get expunged period. (You need a pardon.)
They're the terms of the punishment - your criminal past will follow you for a long time and you lose certain privileges.
Edit: If the condition of your release for a hit and run DUI is that you can't drink for x amount of years then I'd expect that person to not be able to drink for x amount of years. It's not "continuing to punish" them because it's still the same punishment for the same crime - they aren't being punished twice.
I mean at the end of the day if not wanting a dude who made money and got pleasure from torturing dogs to not have another dog makes me a liberal commie bleeding heart fascist Vick-o-phobe then I can deal with that. It just seems like it's taking forgiveness over commonsense much in the same way that allowing a convicted child rapist to adopt children because they're reformed.
You molest children, you don't get to adopt them.
You organize, fund, or have a role in the torturing of dogs then you shouldn't be able to have a dog.
If Vick or his kids want dogs in their life then they can go volunteer at a shelter.
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danthebugman
BoM Nov '10
danthebugman
BoM Nov '10
And amen.
Cigar Cowboy
BoY...in Hell!!!
Wrong - Prison is punishment. It rarely rehabilitates. It does sometime serve as a deterrent for criminals not to re offend.
These stupid ass liberal judges keep giving child molesters short "rehabilitation sentences" then they go out and rape and murder another innocent child. I know it is not the same type of crime. I am just saying.
The punishment must fit the crime
He did his time. He gets to live like a free man. Being a QB does not have anything to do with his crime. But someone needs to keep an eye on him around the mascots. :stretchgr
Yep Different levels of the food chain deserves a different type of respect.
You don't want to know what I think should have happened to him.
When will the time start fitting the crime in this country?
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I posted earlier that I was on the fence about this, but that was before I knew the details of his plea agreement. If he did in fact agree to never own a dog again, then this should be a non-issue. If a guy pleads guilty to a crime, he needs to accept whatever punishment he agreed to.
Now until this thread I had no idea that was part of his plea bargain. If that's the case, then no, he shouldn't own one. However, had that not been part of the equation, I'm of the second chances mindset.
slave2theaxe
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing
My issue with this is not whether or not he should own a dog...I could care less, and if he agreed to not own a dog then so be it...my issue is with the people who think he should never be allowed to play football or hold any kind of gainful employment because he was involved in dogfighting. Where are the hordes of people bitching about Donte Stallworth being able to play in the NFL after killing a human? They aren't there because this country is so screwed up it values a dog's life over that of a human's.
I just want some consistancy. Torturing dogs for fun is a deplorable act and the offending persons should be sent to jail and then damned for the rest of their life, but torturing say a horse or bull for fun (ever seen a rodeo) is OK and the participants here are rewarded...why??? Because bulls aren't cute??? They are animals with feelings right? Where's the consistancy?
I just want some consistancy. Torturing dogs for fun is a deplorable act and the offending persons should be sent to jail and then damned for the rest of their life, but torturing say a horse or bull for fun (ever seen a rodeo) is OK and the participants here are rewarded...why??? Because bulls aren't cute??? They are animals with feelings right? Where's the consistancy?
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slave2theaxe
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing
And just so I'm not misunderstood, I am IN NO WAY advocating dogfighting.
Cigar Cowboy
BoY...in Hell!!!
OK cityboy - You need to get your facts straight. You have NO idea what the hell you are talking about so don't spread that PETA propaganda bullshit.
I was a Professional Rodeo Cowboy on the circuit for 10 years. I have never hurt a rodeo animal. I would not stand by and let an animal get hurt. I actual beat the crap out of some idiot for kicking a horse in the belly for no reason.
I suggest you go educate yourself before spreading lies and propaganda. You can start with our website at the PRCA: PRCA Livestock Welfare
You want to see someone go ape shit, mess with my cowdogs or horses
I like my dogs and horses better than I like most people.
Rodeo is turture... what bullshit!!! On the cowboys maybe:
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