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So, I did this thread wayyyyyyyy back in 2006 or so and figured it could use some revamping. Especially as I think it should talk more about calibration as that seems to keep coming up. Maybe we can get this stickied, I hope it helps folks out.

Welcome to the not-really-OFFICIAL Hygrometer and Hygrometer calibration thread.

This is a topic that comes up with about as much frequency as any other in the cigar-storage world, so I figured a quick overview couldn't hurt.

So, to start with the basics. Obviously the hygrometer serves the purpose of informing us of the Relative Humidity within our storage device. The MOST basic hygrometers do only that, though most will give you both RH and Temperature readings.

Every hygrometer out there, regardless of type, needs to be calibrated to be useful in keeping our cigars in the best possible shape. Calibration is simply the act of comparing the reading on your hygrometer to a known constant. For a long time the typical way of calibrating a hygrometer was known as the "salt method". This involves placing salt into a small cap and adding distilled water until the salt is damp (not disolved, just damp). This solution, if done properly, should regulate to approximately 75% RH. You put the cap with solution into a ziplock bag or small, tightly sealing container, in a controlled temperature environment (room temp, 65-75 degrees is best) along with your hygrometer and check the reading after 24-36 hours. The problem with this method is that the solution can have too much or too little water added and therefor is open to too many variables for it to be 100% accurate every time. Then, along came the Boveda one-step calibration kit. The Boveda packs are guaranteed to regulate to an exact RH (in this case 75.5%) which allows us to be sure that the reading we are seeing on the hygro is exactly + or - X from 75.5%. The process is the same. Place the hygrometer in the provided ziplock bag and leave alone in a regulated temperature environment for 24-36 hours and note the difference between your hygro's reading and 75.5%. Of course, most hygrometers only read in whole numbers, but that extra .5% isn't really something I worry about. One thing to note, the Boveda Kits have a place to note the date when you open them. They tell you to add so many months (it escapes me if it is 3 or 6 right now) and there is a place to note that date. Be sure to do this as the Boveda packs will lose their ability to hold at 75.5% over time once you open the package.

A couple of quick notes about calibration. Temperature stability really is important. A drop or rise in a couple of degrees can affect the reading on your hygrometer immediately while the Boveda will take some time to adjust. Be careful to make sure that the temps where you are calibrating have been fairly steady for at least a few hours when checking the reading after the 24-36 hours. Better yet, check the reading multiple times between 24 and 48 hours to make sure that everything has evened out and is holding steady.

Hygrometer selection is really a personal choice issue, but there are a number of factors that can affect your choices. For instance, will you be able to read the hygrometer with out opening up your storage device to do so? Do you have a number of storage devices to monitor that you would like to be able to do so from a single unit? How important to you is it that the read out be "spot-on"? How much room do you have for the hygrometer?

All of these things can affect which hygrometer will fit your exact needs. Though I can't answer every question for every hygrometer, for the purpose of this post I'll do my best to note the most important features of each of the different types of hygrometers. So, with no further ado, here we go:

The first and worst of hygrometers (IMHO): The ANALOG HYGRO

*disclaimer, I have nothing against Credo and have never used the above hygro, it was just a good illustrative picture*
You will find these on a number of desktop humidors out there. They use them for a couple of reasons: they look good in an olde timey way, and they are CHEAP! They are cheap for a reason folks, they don't work well. I've yet to meet an analog hygro that was worth a damn. They are woefully inaccurate and in the cheapest models are not even adjustable. Most models ARE adjustable via a small screw on the back of the hygro.
If you insist on using this type of hygro, you'll need to calibrate, IMHO, at least on a monthly basis to know that the reading you are getting is correct. I can't count the number of times a friend just getting into cigars has described a problem related to high humidity and had it turn out to be an analog hygro that was the culprit. Example: A buddy just getting into cigars kept telling me how he was continually having to add water to his humidifier because his hygro kept telling him it wasn't humid enough. He would add a bunch of water, things would be fine for a day and then bam, back to the 50's in RH. Turns out it was an analog hygro and wasn't even close to correct. Even after calibrating it refused to hold the correct humidity readings. My buddy had some awful soggy cigars for a while.:wink:

Now, if you, like most others have either already dealt with the problems inherent in analog hygros or, after reading the above are lucky enough to be skipping that step, we can move on to the next major category of hygros: DIGITAL.

Digital Hygros come in an astounding number of shapes, sizes and functions, so I will break them into three basic categories: Basic, Adjustable and Wireless. As to downsides for digitals, obviously you will need to replace batteries now and then.

Basic Digital Hygrometer:


The above is a perfect example of your basic digital hygrometer. It is a Western Caliber 3 and has a reputation for being a reliable and accurate hygro. It shows temps in C and F as well as RH rounded to the whole number. Some Digitals will show you the RH to the tenth as well as whole numbers, but really it isn't necessary. This particular digital happens to be rectangular. You can find them square, round and just about every other shape out there. They can be had thick or thin, small or large, and even, in the case of the Little Havana Perfecto Hygro, in the shape of a cigar. Many come with magnetic or sticky backing so that they can be attached to lids of humidors and some are even designed to fit humidors with built in hygrometer frames. If you plan on attaching a hygro to the lid of your humidor, make sure to pay attention to the measurements to assure there is enough clearance between the lid and your cigars. They all perform the same basic function and are more or less reliable and accurate.

All have a certain measure of accuracy, usually in the +/-1% or 3% range. Regardless of what is advertised, you will need to calibrate, note the amount the hygro is off + or - and add or subtract that number from the reading on the hygro to get the true reading. I tend to stick a piece of masking tape on the hygro with this notation so that I don't have to go searching for notes. I recomend doing this at least once a year (every 6 months is better) as even digital hygros can change readings over time.

ADJUSTABLE Hygrometers


For those of you who simply HATE looking at a hygrometer and having to subtract or add to get to the real reading, this is right up your alley. The above picture is of the first group of adjustable hygro's to come out. Xikar now has their own versions out. I have not used them, but Xikar puts out good produts over all and I'm sure these are no different. And a I have to admit that their version of the rectuangular hygrometer is pretty sharp. I have multiples of the above original hygrometers and absolutely love how they work. Simply calibrate to test the reading on the hygro and note the difference + or -. Remove the hygro from the container/bag, turn the adjustment knob the number of clicks needed to correct the reading (one click clockwise to add 1% to the reading or one click counterclockwise to subtract 1% from the reading) and press the "set" button. After a second or two, the lcd will reset and your reading should be corrected. I have never used the Xikar adjustables, but it sounds as if you simply push and hold a button for 5 seconds and the hygrometer sets itself at 75% RH. While this is easier in one sense, it means that you MUST have the Boveda one-step calibration kit. For the others, you can use any of the Boveda packs in any RH and adjust the hygrometer so that it reads corectly.

I recommend placing the hygro back in your calibration setup after this to confirm the correct adjustment has taken. If you are going to go the extra mile to get an adjustable hygro, it only makes sense to make sure it is right on the money.

There is a magnetic attachment on both the round and rectangular versions (at least the originals, not sure about Xikar) that will allow you to attach these to your humidor if you wish.
I only have one complaint, and that is that they aren't...
 
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Wireless Hygrometers
The base unit:


The remote:


There are a variety of variations on the above unit made by any number of manufacturers (Oregon Scientific and La Crosse are two biggies) and most involve differences in the "base". The basic wireless hygro unit will include the base unit which usually has it's own hygro and thermometer built in and will display the read out from the wireless remote units (usually one base can handle up to three remote units) as well as the time, date and any other number of pieces of information depending on the version you choose. A few even have the ability to export data from the base to a computer. They are typically advertised as weather stations. These units are PERFECT for those who maintain a number of cooler-idors. They allow you to throw a remote unit in the cooler and know exactly what is going on inside without having to open things up to find out. They are also a great fit for desktops that are not glass-tops and that have plenty of room in them between the lid and the smokes. The remote units are not exactly what you would call "compact" so don't think you are going to use one in a desktop with only a couple inches between the lid and your smokes.

Once again, my only major complaint about Wireless Hygros is that they are not adjustable. Once someone comes out with a Remote Adjustable Hygrometer, my world will be complete.

There are any other number of hygrometers out there, but the above are what I would say are the most commonly found used in our hobby and the most suited for it.

So there you go. My take on hygrometers. I hope this helps those out there trying to decide what type they want to use. Good luck!

I've tried to link most of these to places where you can purchase them. I didn't do so with the wireless hygros becaues there are simply too many places that offer them and none of our cigar-centric retailers carry them. Beyond that, I linked to whichever vendor I found that had what I was trying to talk about first. Those that I recommend checking out for this type of thing (in NO particular order):

www.cigarsolutions.com
www.cigarmony.com
www.hcmcigarbeads.com
www.heartfeltindustries.com
All good vendors, all genuine BOTLs.
 

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Courtesy of TheCatch83's post on another thread, here's another option for a remote hygrometer. This one only handles one remote unit (as best I can tell), and I can't speak for its accuracy, but it's a nice compact remote unit which contrasts with most of the other remote/base setups where the remotes are big honkin' monsters.



Find it here.

I'm providing the above link because of the places I found this hygrometer, it was the cheapest. Please don't get sucked in by their statement about calibration though. There is no such thing as a hygrometer that doesn't need to be calibrated. You may find it accurate upon calibration, but until you've done that, you have no way to know.
 

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Question for anyone out there. The manager at my B & M said you could calibrate a standard digital hygro (one with out a calibration or reset button). He said to loosely wrap it in a damp towel. Once the display read 95% or higher, then it was re-calibrated, and would read accurately from there. Has anyone tried this?
 

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Question for anyone out there. The manager at my B & M said you could calibrate a standard digital hygro (one with out a calibration or reset button). He said to loosely wrap it in a damp towel. Once the display read 95% or higher, then it was re-calibrated, and would read accurately from there. Has anyone tried this?
Haven't tried it, but I'll have to give it a try. I'm pretty sure I've got a random digital hygro lying around I can try this with. I'll post results.
 

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Haven't tried it, but I'll have to give it a try. I'm pretty sure I've got a random digital hygro lying around I can try this with. I'll post results.
Me too. I have 2 of the cigar shaped ones, that are both reading 62% in my humidor, and need + 3% added to that after my last boveda test. I'll try it one of them and see what it reads in comparison to the other.
 

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Question for anyone out there. The manager at my B & M said you could calibrate a standard digital hygro (one with out a calibration or reset button). He said to loosely wrap it in a damp towel. Once the display read 95% or higher, then it was re-calibrated, and would read accurately from there. Has anyone tried this?
Any risk of doing damage to a digital hygrometer by doing this? Say, a Western Caliber III, for example?
 

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No idea. I am not goin gto use a soaking, dripping wet towel, but a damp towel. Maybe put the hygro in a shallow tupperware, and the wrap that in the damp towel
 

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That would be the way I would go. Though really, you could probably get the same end result with a dish of water and a sponge in a tupperware without wrapping it. I'm guessing the wrapping it is just to speed things up or a quick and dirty way to get there fast.
 
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Jason, i got an issue. I have 2 hygrometers: the Caliber III and the Hygroset (bought it from Michael at HCMBEads). They were both calibrated with the Boveda kit. The Hygroset needed to be lower 2% to be at 75% so i set it up. But now I'm using the beads, and one reads 62% (caliber III) and the other one reads 68% (hygroset). I've noticed that below 70% the hygroset it's having difficulties reading accurate...i dont know which one is the accurate one so i bought Boveda packs of 65%, still waiting for them...

in the meanwhile...any advice?
 

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Interesting. For now, try not to worry about it. Both readings are fine. You aren't doing any damage. Once you get the Boveda packs, through them into an airtight container (small tupperware-style container) along with both hygrometers and see what happens.

OK, checked out your recent threads and I'm guessing it's the tall-ish humidor with the glass front and three trays showing? Are you checking the reading on both hygros right next to each other or are you taking readings from different places? And what do you mean by the Hygroset has trouble reading accurate below 70%?

How steady is the environment (temperature specifically)? It's possible that one or the other doesn't update as fast as the other which could lead to some strange readings if the temps and RH are changing constantly. Kind of grasping here...

I'm afraid the best answer is going to be to wait for the Boveda packs to arrive.

As a side note, and I meant to post about this in another thread, I've recently had two of the hygrosets die on me out of nowhere. Just stopped working. And at least one of them I would swear was new.
 
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I've recently had two of the hygrosets die on me out of nowhere. Just stopped working.
I thought my hygrometer was dead too, but i checked the battery compartment. The cover was a little loose, so it was losing contact w/ the battery. I'd check that as far as the dead hygro's.

as for the 2 hygro's not matching: just average them! :crosseyed JK, well maybe. you'll see when you get the boveda's.
 

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I thought my hygrometer was dead too, but i checked the battery compartment. The cover was a little loose, so it was losing contact w/ the battery. I'd check that as far as the dead hygro's.
Yeah, I've had that issue before, so I checked that with each one by pressing down on the battery and even tweaking the metal contact areas to make sure there was good contact. No dice.
 

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If that is a steady reading then you definitely have something going on with one of them not reading accurately. Any idea how old the batteries are in each? If the batteries are dying they can cause reliability issues. I would wait for the Bovedas and see where they are. Keep us posted!
 
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If that is a steady reading then you definitely have something going on with one of them not reading accurately. Any idea how old the batteries are in each? If the batteries are dying they can cause reliability issues. I would wait for the Bovedas and see where they are. Keep us posted!
They are both new hehehe...one is 1 month old, the other one is 1 week old. Let's wait for the Boveda (i bought a 12-pack lol)
 
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