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..... Really dissatisfied with some of my leaves, top one is Mex SA and bottom one is Nic wrapper both from Leaf only. The SA is too small for most of my bunches and the Nic wrapper has massive veins that when dry pulls the wrapper and makes it look badly wrapped. Tried rolling pin and it makes holes in the wrapper.
I hear you about veiny wrapper. I've heard the rolling pin thing numerous times; but, like you, no relief. I use a rolling pin on binder, where I just give it one or two rolls and that's it, just to knock down the worst of it. But bad wrapper is just a pain. all you can do is take it out of the rotation and move on. I've had best luck with Habano 2000 from Whole Leaf Tobacco and recently with the Connecticut shade I scored from FX Smith. Everything else pales by comparison. No use working with junk. I tried Bezuki (impossibly toothy), Sumatra (way too fragile), broadleaf maduro (not my flave), honduran habano (Don got ripped off on this stuff), Jorge habano (veins you could weave a rattan chair outta) and I don't know what all. Keep coming back to H2k and FX CT.
 
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I hear you about veiny wrapper. I've heard the rolling pin thing numerous times; but, like you, no relief. I use a rolling pin on binder, where I just give it one or two rolls and that's it, just to knock down the worst of it. But bad wrapper is just a pain. all you can do is take it out of the rotation and move on. I've had best luck with Habano 2000 from Whole Leaf Tobacco and recently with the Connecticut shade I scored from FX Smith. Everything else pales by comparison. No use working with junk. I tried Bezuki (impossibly toothy), Sumatra (way too fragile), broadleaf maduro (not my flave), honduran habano (Don got ripped off on this stuff), Jorge habano (veins you could weave a rattan chair outta) and I don't know what all. Keep coming back to H2k and FX CT.
I agree with you whole heartedly!
I am perfectly capable of making my cigars look crap all by myself, I don't need any help from my binder! hahaha
Best wrapper I had was Shade ecuadorian from LO. But I won't be placing another order from them due to some other issues.
I used the last of my seco last night so payday I am going to order a load of leaf again.

I tried under casing them, over casing them and keeping them what I consider to be just right and I didn't have a lot of luck. The Nic is too thick and the leaves too small to wrap a corona and cap with half a leaf. A lot of the SA and Nic wrapper leaves had holes all over them too.....

Pissed me off no end. I will just use them for binder now and cut my losses.
 
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The more I roll, the more I realize the importance of continual practice if I want to continue to improve. Working with Willy has really stepped my game up a bunch, but I only get to glean knowledge from him once, maybe twice per week for a few hours at a time. Apart from that I try to roll 10 sticks a day at home on my own and most days I manage to pull it off. This practice is really paying off. My bunches going into the molds are getting much more uniform in girth and length and it takes practically no time at all anymore to fill the mold up. It would be even faster if my day job wouldn't interrupt my rolling. lol
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The more I roll, the more I realize the importance of continual practice if I want to continue to improve. Working with Willy has really stepped my game up a bunch, but I only get to glean knowledge from him once, maybe twice per week for a few hours at a time. Apart from that I try to roll 10 sticks a day at home on my own and most days I manage to pull it off. This practice is really paying off. My bunches going into the molds are getting much more uniform in girth and length and it takes practically no time at all anymore to fill the mold up. It would be even faster if my day job wouldn't interrupt my rolling. lol
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That right there's some serious ugly bunches to come out so smooth.

One thing I'm still uncertain about with parejos is how tight they should fit in the mold. Do you have to pry them in there? Do you have to pry them out with a screwdriver? Or do they slip in and out by themselves?
 
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That right there's some serious ugly bunches to come out so smooth.

One thing I'm still uncertain about with parejos is how tight they should fit in the mold. Do you have to pry them in there? Do you have to pry them out with a screwdriver? Or do they slip in and out by themselves?
That's the beauty of the mold. I used to take my time with the bunch and make it pretty, but that is what the mold is for. I learned that my first visit with Willy. Man are his bunches ugly going into the mold, but after being pressed in there they are nice. As far as how tight to pack the mold, I like to pack it to where I need to use an outside force like a large clamp or standing on the mold to get it to press the bunches. If the bunches are still wet, they will stick some in the mold and a little force will be needed. If the bunches sit long enough they will dry and shrink enough to come out with some gentle pressure on the head of the cigar. I don't usually wait so it takes some creativity to pull the bunches to rotate them or pull them without damaging them.
 
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That's the beauty of the mold. I used to take my time with the bunch and make it pretty, but that is what the mold is for. I learned that my first visit with Willy. Man are his bunches ugly going into the mold, but after being pressed in there they are nice. As far as how tight to pack the mold, I like to pack it to where I need to use an outside force like a large clamp or standing on the mold to get it to press the bunches. If the bunches are still wet, they will stick some in the mold and a little force will be needed. If the bunches sit long enough they will dry and shrink enough to come out with some gentle pressure on the head of the cigar. I don't usually wait so it takes some creativity to pull the bunches to rotate them or pull them without damaging them.
The perfecto mold is closed at either end, which makes for a tight fit. I got used to using a dull ended, small tipped, long shaft screwdriver, about the size driver you use to adjust carbs. But I see these rolling vids, they always can just reach in with a fingertip and pop the bunch out. Hasn't worked that way for me. Thot maybe I'm making them too plump.
 

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That's the beauty of the mold. I used to take my time with the bunch and make it pretty, but that is what the mold is for. I learned that my first visit with Willy. Man are his bunches ugly going into the mold, but after being pressed in there they are nice. As far as how tight to pack the mold, I like to pack it to where I need to use an outside force like a large clamp or standing on the mold to get it to press the bunches. If the bunches are still wet, they will stick some in the mold and a little force will be needed. If the bunches sit long enough they will dry and shrink enough to come out with some gentle pressure on the head of the cigar. I don't usually wait so it takes some creativity to pull the bunches to rotate them or pull them without damaging them.
Ugly bunches are my specialty

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The perfecto mold is closed at either end, which makes for a tight fit. I got used to using a dull ended, small tipped, long shaft screwdriver, about the size driver you use to adjust carbs. But I see these rolling vids, they always can just reach in with a fingertip and pop the bunch out. Hasn't worked that way for me. Thot maybe I'm making them too plump.
I think in those videos that bunch has probably sat in the mold about a day or so, either that or is already dry and stiff. When the bunch is still wet and flexible it doesn't work as well. Your screwdriver should work well for the parejos as well.
 
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