What's in your bowl today

[Sirspanksalot]

Aromatics are the acids of the pipe world. That'd be a good way to understand. Full virginia take some time to get used to, it was for me at least, so I wouldn't recommend maybe a Virginia with a but of flavoring. Like umm...Erinmore I think? Maybe java can clarify

 

[javajunkie]

second bowl of odyssey, now in one of my zavvos's:

pulled this the same time as the last bowl, then loaded it this morning. HUGE difference so far in flavors. for me, for the positive.


ALSO, at hops, yes "aro" stands for aromatics. frequently virginia, or burley, or cavendish (which IIRC is a sweetened and pressed burley? guys, help me out), but with additives to change the taste and, mostly, the room note, or ambient aroma. thus, aromatic. if it smells like mostly tobacco, it's probably not. if it smells like something else AND tobacco, or just something else, probably is.

and, like in cigars, there are people who do a piss poor job, and people (like acid in cigars) who try to respect both the tobacco and the add ins. unlike cigars, there are a lot of people who do good, or even great, aros. drug store aros are, IMO, mostly crap, but there are many good ones from many companies. DE heirloom cherry, sutliff molto dolce (when it's GOTTA BE sweet), JFH shortcut to mushrooms, all solid aros i have enjoyed, and my experience with them is short.

also, FWIW, i consider anything with a lot if cavendish to be an aro. it's too sweet for me to consider it normal tobacco flavor. but they can be lovely. stokkebye golden dansk was my first pound, truth be told.

 

[smokinghole]

Cavendish is a process really just kind of like making maduro. They steam the leaf and it can be any leaf from what I understand. I think big companies press then steam, but you can make it at home with whole leaf where you steam it on your stove top in a colander in a double boiler type setup. Then you can press it and you have yourself cavendish. Some companies sweeten it further I would suspect that especially is the case when its burley based, but if they use virginia leaf to begin with maybe there wouldn't be much need to sweeten.

 

[javajunkie]

cool and thanks! o)

right now: i'm not actually sure WHAT this is, as i had 2-3 bowls worth in an unlabeled jar, left over from jarring a pound, but i would guess peter heinrich dark strong. either way, it's a big bastard VA flake, and it's in my nord, with a cuppa, and it's tasty!

EDIT: still feel that was PH DS, and i know it was a big bastard, but with some bright and sweet notes to keep it interesting. fold and stuff, one light, some finesse tamping, and here was what i was left with at the end:

mind you, this is ONLY because i can get hung up on details, or make a challenge when none exists. like dustinspo's dad egging me in to burn a dirty rat down to less than 1/4". o)

also, once again, this nord is STILL one of my prettiest pipes, and best performers.

 

[NIZZLE]

cool and thanks! o)

right now: i'm not actually sure WHAT this is, as i had 2-3 bowls worth in an unlabeled jar, left over from jarring a pound, but i would guess peter heinrich dark strong. either way, it's a big bastard VA flake, and it's in my nord, with a cuppa, and it's tasty!

Love the Jagermeister cooler.

 

[javajunkie]

spoils of war. you dont shill booze for over a decade without the occasional hook up. best part? it's one of my cellars. o)

 

[Whtwtrman79]

Certainly looks like ph ds!

 

[cgraunke]

Peter Stokkebye Luxury Twist Flake in the Sav 320 Series III
Not a bad burn down for my first attempt at the "fold and stuff" method!

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Peter Stokkebye Luxury Twist Flake in the Sav 320 Series III
Not a bad burn down for my first attempt at the "fold and stuff" method!

I love that baccy. Have yet to try the fold and stuff with a flake though. Did you let it dry before packing and did you notice a flavor difference from rubbing it out?

 

[cgraunke]

I think it was my first time smoking that baccy all together... but I'm not refined enough to notice subtle differences anyway!
Any veteran pipers care to chime in?

 

[TheDudeAbides]

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C&D Exhausted Rooster in my brand new Sav 320 alligator

 

[cgraunke]

That pipe is just plain sexy!

 

[TheDudeAbides]

It's pretty much 10 pounds of awesome in a five pound sack.
Smokes as good as it looks, too! Thanks for the heads up on the ebay machine for acquiring it.
-Dude

 

[javajunkie]

... did you notice a flavor difference from rubbing it out?

first off, i'm not touching that, too easy. o)

so, fold and stuff on flakes and coins really makes a denser mass of tobacco in the bowl. with a little practice and good tamping, it creates a firm but full draw. and, exactly like cigars, if you can get this draw, it is SO much easier to pace yourself and nurse flavors out of a smoke than when it is a "wind tunnel". also, like clint, i can't swear i got the chops yet to truly pick apart the experience, but so far it is easier for me to detect and discern what's going on when a fold and stuff happens properly.

which is to say, i guess, rubbing it out can be a lot easier, but stuffing it in seems to be more fulfilling.

 

[Whtwtrman79]

I think we all feel the same way.....now what were we talking about again

 

[cgraunke]

first off, i'm not touching that, too easy. o)

And, speaking of too easy:

I guess, rubbing it out can be a lot easier, but stuffing it in seems to be more fulfilling.

You're right Dave,
"That's what WE'VE ALL said!"

 

[BrewinHooligan]

... did you notice a flavor difference from rubbing it out?

which is to say, i guess, rubbing it out can be a lot easier, but stuffing it in seems to be more fulfilling.

Bwhahahaa!! I see what you did there. It's funny cause it's true. o)

 

[javajunkie]

what?!? did my statement NOT fit? i thought that was perfectly apt...

rule 34

 

[Ducttapegonewild]

rule 34

Yup...

 

[cgraunke]

A fine birthday smoke on the ride in this morning.
Some tasty 2010 Penzance, thanks to andysc83, in my "BOTL Nord", w/ thanks to a great group of BOTL pipers!