Exactly! Them moments are what I live for. Moments that will stick with you all your life!I don't speak with my blood father or mother. Due to years of abuse and stuff. But my favorite moment of all was when I went home for leave and hung out with my "replacement" dad and shared scotch and cigars and he told me he was proud of me.Hahaha I'm for that!!! Haha he wouldn't want anymore cigars! But I did tell him when he was grown I think it would be cool to sit down and enjoy a cigar with my son. I go to my pops house now and sit and smoke with him and I love it. So I don't want to completely ruin him on cigars! Although it is a great idea!
That is an amazing moment for both father and son. So I wouldn't shove the MUWAT down his throat just yet. But maybe a acid. Show him the beauty of a real cigar.
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Brother! That's far too generous!I got you some cigars going out in the morning
I have to give them away before my son smokes them! Hahaha! Just kidding!Brother! That's far too generous!I got you some cigars going out in the morning
I'm all for sharing! As the bible says, Give and it will be given back to you good measure, pressed down and shaken together! 
I don't have kids, but I can provide a different view point on this for you. I'm 21, and have been smoking on and off since I've been 12 years old or so. From taking my dad's cigs, to getting older friends to buy me blacks or other cigarillos, and now to me buying my own cigars. My parents aren't/weren't very strict about it, but also didn't want it becoming a habit. I also feel like they knew I would handle it well, and by that I mean that it wouldn't turn into a cigarette addiction type thing.
But now we go onto my little brother who's now 15. We found out he started smoking, and again it was handled how it was with me initially. Now the thing is, he pretty much has to smoke now, and he won't listen to anyone who reasons with him. It's pretty just at a point where we can't leave money out or he'll take it to buy single cigarette from the corner store, and me having my closet closed with a number lock, and keeping my smokes and pipe stuff in there.
So in the end, think about how you think your son will handle smoking at an early age, how okay are you and your woman with it, and what will the final outcome possibly be.
But now we go onto my little brother who's now 15. We found out he started smoking, and again it was handled how it was with me initially. Now the thing is, he pretty much has to smoke now, and he won't listen to anyone who reasons with him. It's pretty just at a point where we can't leave money out or he'll take it to buy single cigarette from the corner store, and me having my closet closed with a number lock, and keeping my smokes and pipe stuff in there.
So in the end, think about how you think your son will handle smoking at an early age, how okay are you and your woman with it, and what will the final outcome possibly be.
My kids are too young for the topic. But if my dad had occasionally given me a real cigar when I was that age I probably would've stayed away from cigarettes. Smoked cigs from about 13-19, glad I quit.
Just my .02.
Just my .02.
Oh, don't give him an acid, the natural was much better imo haha
It's my pleasure! Thanx for your service to this country Brother!Brother! That's far too generous!I got you some cigars going out in the morning
I have talked with him and expressed to him that cigars are not meant to be inhaled. I know we do inadvertently inhale some smoke but its not like cigarettes by inhaling every draw. So I did say that if they were to smoke I would like for them to enjoy a cigar rather than chain smoke cigarettes like I did for 15 years
Thanx Brother, I value your input and I have certainly taken note of this!
Def a good list. I have quite a few people on it. Making my way down. You are the fastest person to have made it on. You seem genuine.Thanx Brother! What list is that? Hopefully a good list!
Thanx Brother! I live and teach my kids to live by the motto "Treat people the way you want to be treated and Bless people as much as you can and life will be all gravy!" Thanx Again Brother and I'm so glad I joined this forum because everyone in here is Great and I look forward to a long and lasting friendship with you Brothers!Def a good list. I have quite a few people on it. Making my way down. You are the fastest person to have made it on. You seem genuine.Thanx Brother! What list is that? Hopefully a good list!
Yea cigarettes aren't any good. My grandfather's in his 70s and he has to wake up at night to smoke
A question I've pondered often, as I have two young boys. I think this is an incredible answer, having not known your personal experiences. I was just going to say, be honest. And, do be honest, but I'll be remembering StogieNinjas advice.
It's funny - now that my son is 6 and daughter is 4, I've been thinking a lot about how to talk to them on any given number of issues. Cigars is one of them. Right now I don't smoke in front of them but nor do I hide the fact that I smoke cigars. And my father-in-law is the same way. When the kids are at their place, he will go and lock himself in the garage and smoke. At first he didn't want to tell them what he was doing but I told him it was okay. I am a firm believer in the idea that the more you hide something, the more attractive you make it seem.
But, what will I say in a few years when he starts asking about it? I like to think I'll be cool about it and just explain...
However, I give you tons of credit, Madcox - no matter how you choose to handle it, you stepped back and thought about it before you took action.
But, what will I say in a few years when he starts asking about it? I like to think I'll be cool about it and just explain...
However, I give you tons of credit, Madcox - no matter how you choose to handle it, you stepped back and thought about it before you took action.
I don't know... I don't have kids, so it's not really something I can fairly comment on. I can just guess/think from what I feel on the matter from a teacher's perspective, and knowing children like I do. I kind of think that 15-16 is too young for someone to make that decision. Certainly, many will make their own choices anyhow, but I think to let them freely do it (or encourage him) like it seems some might (and some are encouraging in the thread), is quite contrary to how I would handle it. Cigars are a great thing, and maybe since I'm only late to the party (I've only really picked it up as a hobby in the last two years, with having never really smoked prior) my concepts are different. The concept that he's sneaking around it, and doing it with friends would lead me to do what you did and have a serious conversation about it.
I understand that they'll do what they want anyhow, and that you can't watch them 24/7, but I guess I've always been mindful of the "you can make those type of decisions when you're an adult and start paying your way" more so than encouraging it. It's not saying I didn't sneak a beer, stay out late, go somewhere I wasn't supposed to be to see some chick, or whatever, but for the most part, my parents tried to push the decisions like alcohol, tobacco, sex and drugs are things you aren't old enough to make until you're out of the house. It's a twister, but I think I would stick with the, "I'm old enough to make these types of choices, and when you show me you're also at that stage, we can talk about it". But I don't think I would ever want it being a nightly, weekly, or frequent habit that a kid of mine smoked. At least not while they lived in my home. I guess a mature kid, I could see the side of letting them have one on a 'special occasion with dad', and as they turn 18, letting them into the fun in a larger basis. I just don't know that kids really comprehend the complexity of the choice, and have the respect for it that they should. It's not evil, and it's not a bad thing, but at the same time, like all good things, moderation is a practice I would want to encourage.
Good luck with it man, and I don't envy the conversations and tip toeing of a wife with it either. I can imagine what my mom would have done if she thought my dad got me hooked on things she didn't approve of.
I understand that they'll do what they want anyhow, and that you can't watch them 24/7, but I guess I've always been mindful of the "you can make those type of decisions when you're an adult and start paying your way" more so than encouraging it. It's not saying I didn't sneak a beer, stay out late, go somewhere I wasn't supposed to be to see some chick, or whatever, but for the most part, my parents tried to push the decisions like alcohol, tobacco, sex and drugs are things you aren't old enough to make until you're out of the house. It's a twister, but I think I would stick with the, "I'm old enough to make these types of choices, and when you show me you're also at that stage, we can talk about it". But I don't think I would ever want it being a nightly, weekly, or frequent habit that a kid of mine smoked. At least not while they lived in my home. I guess a mature kid, I could see the side of letting them have one on a 'special occasion with dad', and as they turn 18, letting them into the fun in a larger basis. I just don't know that kids really comprehend the complexity of the choice, and have the respect for it that they should. It's not evil, and it's not a bad thing, but at the same time, like all good things, moderation is a practice I would want to encourage.
Good luck with it man, and I don't envy the conversations and tip toeing of a wife with it either. I can imagine what my mom would have done if she thought my dad got me hooked on things she didn't approve of.