Cuba buying Tobacco from elsewhere?
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smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
Wouldn't that be cause enough to try blending with nica or dom tobacco to try something new. Obviously the nc vendors are not hurting much with factory builds, new lines, etc etc...
How'd he know where it was going? Was it labeled care of Fidel Castro Havana Cuba? Did the factory owner tell him it was go g there? If so did the motivations of the owner come nt question. It only benefits NC manufacturers to feed into this rumor since as was said before it gives their tobacco credibility.
I've heard this rumor many times and never believed it.
What does it matter? would it make your love of "insert name of Favorite Stick" any less. Would peoples opinion of Gurkha magically change if it was discovered they were using all cuban tobacco. Here are some of my theorys Maybe cuba is importing NIC tobacco and that's what the conterfieters are using to make all those glass top cohibas to be sold on cruise ships.
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smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
Makes sense and I see your side...but does not explain ecuador. Google cuba importing tobacco from equador. Found a couple sites saying it started january. If it publically is happening I would be willing to venture that is has happened in past. But good news is that they are probably still rolling the tobacco on virgins thighs...
The fact remains that it doesn't really matter as has been said a couple times. If they are who cares. It seems that there is this mystical allure to cuban tobacco. It's just an agricultural product as it is in Nic and the DR. To me it seems like a few people here don't want to believe that they are using Nic tobacco and would deny (or rationalize it somehow) it even if they found a bail of Nic tobacco in a Cuban factory. Tobacco is tobacco. If it smokes good who gives a flying fuck where it's from. This is why I make fun of DIE HARD CC smokers. They seem to be more wrapped up with the fact that its FROM Cuba more than that it's good.
I actually hope the rumor is true. I just hope you die hard CC guys don't pop blood vessels if/when it's confirmed.
I actually hope the rumor is true. I just hope you die hard CC guys don't pop blood vessels if/when it's confirmed.
smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
Well said.
AlohaStyle
BoM Sept '12 & Aug '13
I care for the simple reason that I want to know what I'm smoking. I wouldn't care if they were blended if I was told that fact, then I could choose to smoke it or not.
Take beer since you are pretty knowledgeable about beer... would you say that you wouldn't care at all about what ingredients are in the beer or where the hops come from etc and would be happy just saying you like it or not? Sure there's always times where you could care less and just want a good beer, but for the most part, you like beer enough that you actually care what's in it and possibly where the ingredients are from. You don't want to drink a beer where the producer is lying to you and not sharing ingredients/info about it.
Same as cigars, I simply want to know. Not that I'm being a snob cuz I want to know about any cigar I'm smoking... Nicaraguan, Dominican etc. I just don't want any BS.
And for the record, I have no clue if Cuba is producing cigars with other country's tobacco. I do think it's very interesting that Cuba officially allowed the Robaina's to start growing in Ecuador... why would they do that? Maybe to start having other tobacco ready if/when the embargo is lifted, or to ship some to Cuba to produce now... who knows.
smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
I am not gunna lie...more interested in thought process and why each person thinks they way they do about this topic and enjoy the back and forth. But I'm not gunna lie...chaps my ass when people post up 1 line statements or smilies poking fun or downplaying a conversation. Just read first few posts and move along. Just my .02
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a lot of producers buy tobacco at the international tobacco market (don't know its name) in Nicaragua. The two Cubans who run the manufacturing for Flor de Camejo cigars here in Panama say the Nicaraguan and Cuban tobacco are the best in the world right now,
As an aside Romeo and Juilet among others buy a lot of their cigars from Santa Rosa de Copan Honduras where the first New world cigar factory was built by the Spanish
As an aside Romeo and Juilet among others buy a lot of their cigars from Santa Rosa de Copan Honduras where the first New world cigar factory was built by the Spanish
Jfire
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Adam. From a guy that fell in love with Petr and Pepin just a few years ago, I can tell you I no longer think Tobacco is just Tobacco. Do you really think many of the well versed gents here smoke CCs because of there "mystic allure"? Maybe like me they're following what there tastes are telling them is currently suiting there palates. I still love MANY Ncs. I just can't tolerate the strength daily (some 2x a day) that many fresh NCs have. It has nothing to do with a "look at what I got" or omg "forbidden fruit". Are they're stronger CCs? Yes but even the strength they carry I associate with med- full NCs. Also try smoking a very strong NC and seeing if your palate is ready for another one a hour or two later. For me I just can't do it. So I guess I would care because if these rumors are true, I like Ryan would think it's the manufactures responsibility to be honest with there consumer. Even so if those strength levels change to the point of being current NC levels. Or I get that "ruff" palate taste on the next few years of Habanos releases. I guess I'll gave to once again reevaluate my smoking needs.
Justin.
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smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
Agreed justin. No doubt in my eyes per the last time we talked about this...totally different imo and would be a shame if they became the same
some of the responses have been interesting, on my part I care in the fact I like to know what I am smoking but wouldnt care if there were NC leafs in CCs as long as they taste good.
Also being in the UK CCs arent forbidden fruit for me and I smoke both NCs and CCs because I like both, simple as that. I Honestly don't think CCs use NC leafs but wouldnt be suprised if there had been some experimentation.
Also being in the UK CCs arent forbidden fruit for me and I smoke both NCs and CCs because I like both, simple as that. I Honestly don't think CCs use NC leafs but wouldnt be suprised if there had been some experimentation.
I get the point, I really do. If you like the product just be happy with the product. Is it a case of feeling like you over paid if it were blended with an other's country's tobacco?
Interesting to me, Smoke magazine had this article about Emilio Reyes a few years back. It's a little off topic, but is about 'outside factors' with Cuban tobacco.
http://www.smokemag.com/0607/feature.htm
http://www.smokemag.com/0607/feature.htm