Sometimes I think it was our fault, we worked are ass off to make better life's live in a nice area and have nice things. Our kids have grown up just to expect to have everything just handed to them! I have one kid that moved out and started her life working her ass off to fallow her dream of playing in a top orchestra. And I have another that moved in with her boyfriend that keeps her wrapped around his finger. She wanted to buy a used car and she wanted to look at BMWs I told her come out of the clouds and start looking for a reliable $5000 car that we will split to cost on!