How many do you carry?
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PetersCreek
Brother Borealis
I only carry 'em one at a time but when I do carry, it's a...
Kimber Classic Stainless 1911, .45 ACP — Primary, day-to-day, go-to gun.
H&K USP 45 Compact, .45 ACP — Alternate carry...but seeing less and less duty. Great pistol but the 1911 feels and points better.
Kahr PM9, 9mm — Alternate carry for deep concealment.
Taurus M44, .44 Mag — Gentle persuasion for big furries when I'm fly fishing.
Regarding the previous comments by people who have difficulty understanding why people like me practice CCW...
I have fire extinguishers and first aid kits in my home and in my truck. I have a tow strap and road flares in my truck that I've never used. I have fire/smoke/CO detectors in my home that have never gone off but I would've installed them even if they weren't required. I have insurance on my home and truck and would carry it even if it weren't required.
People don't always base prudent measures on the statistical probability (or improbability) of an event but rather, on what's at stake should the event come to pass. Bad things sometimes happen to good people and that's not limited to the "bad neighborhoods." Being prepared is not the same thing as being paranoid or fearful. I and other responsible practitioners of lawful CCW hope never to use our firearms...but if we ever do need them, we're really going to need them.
Kimber Classic Stainless 1911, .45 ACP — Primary, day-to-day, go-to gun.
H&K USP 45 Compact, .45 ACP — Alternate carry...but seeing less and less duty. Great pistol but the 1911 feels and points better.
Kahr PM9, 9mm — Alternate carry for deep concealment.
Taurus M44, .44 Mag — Gentle persuasion for big furries when I'm fly fishing.
Regarding the previous comments by people who have difficulty understanding why people like me practice CCW...
I have fire extinguishers and first aid kits in my home and in my truck. I have a tow strap and road flares in my truck that I've never used. I have fire/smoke/CO detectors in my home that have never gone off but I would've installed them even if they weren't required. I have insurance on my home and truck and would carry it even if it weren't required.
People don't always base prudent measures on the statistical probability (or improbability) of an event but rather, on what's at stake should the event come to pass. Bad things sometimes happen to good people and that's not limited to the "bad neighborhoods." Being prepared is not the same thing as being paranoid or fearful. I and other responsible practitioners of lawful CCW hope never to use our firearms...but if we ever do need them, we're really going to need them.
I think in the status quo for all 50 states is (usually) over 0.08 BAC and/or use of illegal drugs means revocation of license, illegal carry/possesion of a firearm charge, and possibly a felony stuck in there somewhere. Felony, and no more CCW for you ever.Wasch_24 said:
Some states are really strict, with 0.01 being the highest legal limit for carrying and drinking, and some you aren't even allowed to drink at all if you carry.
indyrob
BoM Feb '06 & Sept. '08
I've had the unfortunate experience where I had to use my weapon once. I wouldn't be posting right now if I didn't have it on me.fuente said:
No specifics...just commenting on the question at hand.
I'm sorry but I think Sancho is completely insane for stating that he would use his weapons protecting his car, that is ridiculous. A car is a possession and can be replaced if you have insurance and is not worthy of taking a human life under any circumstances. That is why there should be stricter guidelines before allowing certain people a license to carry, he carries 3 guns and would kill you if you tried to steal his car. Imagine if your teenage son was pulling a childhood prank with this guy he is the type that would come outside and shoot him and think he was right. I know "Guns don't kill people, people kill people " well we should limit who are allowed to have guns.
About six years ago I was working in Central Texas. I met the local state representative named Suzanne Gratia Hupp. In 1991 she was eating at a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen with her parents, after a doctor's appointment. She normally cared a gun in her purse, but had put it in the glove compartment while visiting the hospital.
A man drove his truck into the restaurant and began shooting people. She had time to grab for her purse and realize the gun wasn't there. Her parents were both killed. Realizing that she would have been able to save her parents had she been armed, she led the fight in Texas for concealed handgun permits.
A man drove his truck into the restaurant and began shooting people. She had time to grab for her purse and realize the gun wasn't there. Her parents were both killed. Realizing that she would have been able to save her parents had she been armed, she led the fight in Texas for concealed handgun permits.
Well CVM4, if you have children and they make mistakes like normal children do, and they got shot and killed for those childhish mistakes how would you feel? The point is no possession is worth killing another human being over, period, end of story. To suggest otherwise is completely ridiculous.
cvm4
BoM - July '05 & Dec. '10
BkSmoke said:
Last time I checked, pulling a gun on someone is not the same as shooting them. I'm sure your child will be scared shitless and run away. He'll more then likely learn a big lesson from this and that is to not mess with other people's property. And secondly, I would ask where the parents are in this situation? They should have taught the child better or he/she wouldn't be in this predicament. My dad's belt always kept my ass in line. That was always the common factor when I was a kid. Do this and get whipped or don't do it and save my ass. Hmmmmmm...That wasn't a hard one for me.Sancho Panza said:
CVM4,
Your way of teaching a child a lesson is pointing a loaded gun in their face? This is why we need stricter gun control, do you have any idea how insane you sound? I don't care where the parents are and even if they didn't teach the child any better that doesn't give you the right to threaten his life. Most people carry guns because they have a huge inferiority complex, there is no need to carry 3 loaded weapons unless you live in Iraq.
Your way of teaching a child a lesson is pointing a loaded gun in their face? This is why we need stricter gun control, do you have any idea how insane you sound? I don't care where the parents are and even if they didn't teach the child any better that doesn't give you the right to threaten his life. Most people carry guns because they have a huge inferiority complex, there is no need to carry 3 loaded weapons unless you live in Iraq.
cvm4
BoM - July '05 & Dec. '10
Yes we need stricter gun control for criminals and taking black market guns away from the market. Stricter gun control does nothing but take away the power from the people and make us rely on a LEO that could be 5, 10 or 15 minutes away. No telling what could happen by then.BkSmoke said:
A teenager is not a child. He/she should have enough common sense to know what's right and wrong. Therefore, they should accept the consequences of anything stupid they decide to do. Whatever that may be. You need to focus on the criminals out there with guns instead of law abiding citizens that have permits to carry.
PetersCreek
Brother Borealis
You sir, are profoundly ignorant of fact...and your advocacy of stricter gun control (which in reality is "people control") does more to suggest that you yourself suffer from significant insecurities.BkSmoke said:
I can't have an intelligent conversation with those who think pointing a loaded gun at a 13,14,15 or 16 year old child is justified when trying to protect ones car. If you feel the need to carry 3 firearms then you should move to a better neighborhood immediately. Mr. Creek, I have 1 question for you. Do you advocate pointing a loaded gun at a 13,14,15 or 16 year old because you are protecting your car?
caudio51
BoM Nov '05; Mar '06
BK you need to keep in mind what areas of the country you are speaking to. I agree with both sides but understand where you are coming from. Here in the tri-state area guns are seen as a problem more than other parts of the country. Out west/south guns are a way of life. Kids are brought up on proper gun care, control and use. Just something to keep in the back of your head.
End of my side comment.
End of my side comment.
PetersCreek
Brother Borealis
Your uninformed comment had no direct relation to the pointing of a gun at teenagers. You made a bigoted, stereotypical judgement about those who avail themselves of the right to bear arms for lawful purposes. I'll not follow any red herrings from that point at this time.BkSmoke said:
Thanks Caudio,
I agree but there are maniacs as you can clearly see who believe they are justified in pointing a gun at a teenager when protecting their car. I made a judgement about certain people on this board who have made it clear that they would have no problem pointing a loaded weapon at a teenager for the purpose of protecting their car. Mr.Creek I suggest you read before you make an assumption of what my beliefs are. Now Mr. Creek, I'll ask you again and if you are afraid to answer because you truly believe you would be justified in pointing a loaded weapon at a teenager then I will understand. Do you advocate pointing a loaded gun at a 13,14,15 or 16 year old because you are protecting your car? This is the basis for which I have made my prior statement about needing stricter gun control, if you believe you would be justified then you certainly have no business carrying or owning a weapon in this country.
I agree but there are maniacs as you can clearly see who believe they are justified in pointing a gun at a teenager when protecting their car. I made a judgement about certain people on this board who have made it clear that they would have no problem pointing a loaded weapon at a teenager for the purpose of protecting their car. Mr.Creek I suggest you read before you make an assumption of what my beliefs are. Now Mr. Creek, I'll ask you again and if you are afraid to answer because you truly believe you would be justified in pointing a loaded weapon at a teenager then I will understand. Do you advocate pointing a loaded gun at a 13,14,15 or 16 year old because you are protecting your car? This is the basis for which I have made my prior statement about needing stricter gun control, if you believe you would be justified then you certainly have no business carrying or owning a weapon in this country.
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